I'm not. Based on what I've read, Flynn isn't healthy and able to practice yet. Johnson just signed within the last day or two. There was no way he was going to play last night. He probably doesn't even know the offense yet, and has had at most 1 practice with the team, and that was probably a walk through, if even that.
They didn't sign Flynn to cut him before the start of the season. From what Bowles said, it sounds like Petty isn't even competing for the #2 job unless he miraculously speeds up his progress. By week 3 I think the Jets will cut Flynn, but unless Geno's timetable changes, they will probably carry the 4 QBs into the opener. I like McDougle better than Walls as well, but the Jets coaching staff likes Walls more than they do McDougle. They have Walls listed behind Darrelle Revis, ahead of Marcus Williams on the depth chart. When predicting these rosters, you have to go by what the coaching staff will think, not who we all want to make the roster. Dee Milliner will not be on the PUP list. His recovery timetable predicts his return around Week 2. The PUP list will prevent him from returning until Week 8 based on our schedule and bye placement. Henderson was easily one of the best performing LBs before his MCL injury. He's expected to come back this week healthy.
I don't think Evans has even a remote chance of making the team. Maybe the PS, but that's it. Dozier's as good as gone. Mangold, Brick, Carpenter, Colon, Giacomini, Ijalana, Wesley Johnson and Winters are locks. They'll probably only keep 9 OL. Depending upon how high they are on Harrison and if they think another team would snatch him if the Jets tried to sneak him through waivers, he may make the team and Aboushi be left on the outside looking in. Qvale has had a good camp, but there's no spot for him. We'll have to hope that he makes the PS. I had high hopes for Dozier, but he doesn't seem to have it. He probably could make the PS if the Jets want him. I don't see how Reilly doesn't make the team. He's played too well on the field and is a good ST contributor. With Mauldin and Pace hurt, I see no way Reilly is not on the roster. I don't think Jones is even in consideration. He's done nothing as far as I know. I don't recall reading his name one time. He may go to the PS. I think Lattimore is probably a lock. Henderson looked good early, but with his being injured and Mays having come on lately, plus with his ST's play, he may have moved ahead of Henderson. At this point, I don't think Walls deserves to stay. I like Williams too much and McDougle has too much potential and is cheaper, and probably better already.
You may be right, but if so, I will be shocked. Teams NEVER keep a veteran player on the roster like that. They always have a deal in place where he will be cut, and then re-signed following the 1st game of the season so that his contract doesn't become guaranteed. It would be a waste of cap space to keep him on the roster, cut him a week or two later when Geno comes back, and then have to pay him all season. I don't want Petty to see the field any time soon, but God forbid, if Fitz goes down with an injury during the first game, I'd rather Petty finish out that game, then they bring Flynn back the next day (if he's healthy). If not, they bring back Josh Johnson. As for whom the CS likes more, we really don't know. We don't know who prepared the depth chart. As one poster suggested, sometimes it's the web people or the team reporters, rather than the actual CS. In addition, they may have Walls backing up Revis to try to increase his trade value, or to try to sneak Williams onto the PS. I tend to agree with you regarding Milliner not being on the PUP list. As for Henderson, since he has gone down, Mays has stepped up his play and he offers more value to the team since he's a good STs player.
We are fucked at TE, better off forgetting about that position come week 1 lol... Cumberland, I still don't know how he's on this roster making a cool 1M I think the Jets really have a decision to make at ILB. Davis ain't looking so good. He's whiffed on tackles each preseason game, just no impact what-so-ever. Henderson needs to play next week and show the CS what he can do. He was doing good prior to the injury.
if they think they can go with johnson as qb2 week 1 they will cut flynn and save the guaranteed money he would get for being on the roster week 1. after the game they will cut johnson and resign flynn if the like him more. i think week 1 qb roster will be fitz,johnson,petty,geno
I agree regarding Cumberland. I don't see what the CS sees in him. The same goes for Coples. Davis is looking bad. The only problem is that he's about the only LB we have with any speed, but it doesn't seem to be helping him much. He's a leader and I think is well liked in the locker room, which is important, but if he can't make plays on the field.... I can't see him getting cut and not making the team, but at this point, at least based on what I've read about his play in the preseason games, Mays, Lattimore and Henderson have all outplayed him. He is one of those few players I wanted the Jets to draft and they did, but he has been a fairly big disappointment in terms of his play. He's too young and fast to give up on, but I think I'd rather see him get demoted to 2nd string and either having Lattimore, Henderson or Mays start opposite Harris.
Nobody is saying Petty is competing for the #2 job. What I'm saying is that it is not worth keeping 4 QB's on the roster if it means cutting somebody like McDougle just to keep a Flynn around as an emergency guy in case Fitz goes down in those, whatever, 1-3 weeks until Geno is back. It's not worth it, it's short sighted. If it means taking a loss, which it most likely won't, then fine, take a loss, but keep Dex around. That's a long term thing. You don't cut a possible future starter just to have an emergency QB around. And that's what Flynn is, that's IMO why he was signed in the first place, to make sure that IF Petty can't handle the pressure of playing in a game, that we have somebody to take over for Fitz. But by all accounts, Petty has looked more than servicable if he has to come in when Fitz goes down. For crying out loud, we had guys like Simms play for us and win games for us, don't tell me this team would blow up if Petty had to take over late in the game for Fitz or take over for him for 1-2 games. The odds of Fitz getting hurt during those 1-3 weeks until Geno returns are zilch, it's not happening. And if it does we're gonna be just fine with a run oriented offense and Petty handing the ball to our backs and maybe attempting a few short passes, playactions and so on. Of course he's not supposed to be our primary backup this year, all this is just until Geno returns. IF Geno doesn't return by week 2 or 3 then yeah, you put Geno on PUP and then you carry Matt Flynn as your primary backup. But you don't keep them all. At least I wouldn't. Either you cut Flynn and carry Geno until he returns (week 1-3) or you put Geno on PUP and carry Flynn until Geno returns in week 6. That's me at least.
really hoping we don't carry 4 QB's for any period of time. we need to carry 9LB's, at least 9Olineman, 10DB's, and probably 7WR's...... carrying too many QB's just to bubble wrap Petty makes no sense to me. he's capable of QB2 duties for a week or two.
We're not carrying 4 QBs. Petty will go on IR with a hangnail or something else minor. That way they stash him for a year, can keep working with him and don't waste a roster spot on a QB that's not ready to play this year. That'll leave Fitz, Geno and either Flynn or Johnson. I think it'll be Flynn, but I guess it could be Johnson. If Flynn's not healthy for game 1, I could see them cut him with a deal to come back after game 1 or whenver he's healthy (which I think they can do because he's a vet and they don't have to expose him to waivers) and Johnson could be the backup QB until Flynn or Geno is ready. They'll take a small risk that both Fitz and the backup QB get hurt before Geno can play (I think Kerley is their emergency QB). I think ultimately the 3 QBs on the roster will be Fitz, Geno and Flynn (with Johnson being backup QB for game 1 or, if later, until Flynn is healthy). Alternatively, they could pick up a QB off the waiver wire after final cutdowns to be the backup QB until Flynn is ready. Also remember that Aboushi will not take up a roster spot initially because he's been suspended for one game - so they could keep 4 QBs for the first game - Fitz, Geno, Flynn and Johnson and drop Johnson after the first game when Aboushi is ready to take his roster spot (and Geno might be able to fuction as a 3rd QB if he's healthy enough). The more I think about it I think that's what will happen. In either event unless Petty convinces them in game 4 that he can be a productive player if needed this year he'll end up on IR.
Coples thus far in the preseason has been a real disappointment for me. I've really tried supporting the guy, but his play has been absolutely uninspiring - I really liked Coples out of college - him playing OLB has been a waste for him. Davis just really hasn't be able to get his technique and awareness in order. It's only preseason so maybe he turns it up a little bit. No way does he get cut now, I agree. I was excited about D. Davis being a Jet as well. He could get demoted, but the question is who stays on the final roster in terms of inside linebackers?
Your boy is still hanging in there. Barely. I think he's banged up right now but he's our 5th safety so he probably makes it until the next wave when we cut down to 53 I think.
Not sure I would cut Lyn just yet, from a size speed perspective he is better than Phillips and we still need some CBs if the three starters get rested this weekend - and Milliner is out so we have 5 which is not a lot the way Bowles plays. Would think he may make the PS as he had 4.3 speed and is 6'1" and over 200lbs. Think Howsare sticks for now as again he got some reps even if primarily on teams. Also can see Eskridge making this weekend on the roster as he got some decent playing time last weekend but thereafter...... most he can realistically hope for is PS. Can see Richardson getting cut as he did not even get carries in the 4th quarter against the Giants when Bohanon got a few carries and has fallen behind Stacey who got a look with the 1st team Oline. My three cuts would be - RB Daryl Richardson (Did not get any playing time last weekend - never a good sign) - TE Arthur Lynch (Only signed off waivers from Fins on August 18th) - DE Jordan Williams (We have way too much depth here and he had marginal production in college)
I liked Jordan Williams vs the Giants. Maybe it was the guy he played but he looked a little bit like Douzable. I think he's got some potential. I'd give him at least another half this week and see how he does.
First post updated. Few adjustments made. Moved Enunwa to HB, among others. We're now at 75. Have to cut down to 53 by Friday I believe. Also, credit to @Will for calling this one first (Phillips over Lyn). Phillips seems banged up I guess but still.
New York Jets Twitter: "Your Starting Right Guard" picture of Colon's ugly mug. since when is the social media team setting the depth chart. That dude hasn't earned the job just yet
well he has been the starting G and nothing has changed, so they are right. fwiw, he's quietly had a very solid offseason, and already has the job locked up imo.. he's the best G not named Carpenter (who also has really impressed) on the roster.
