Lack of Dicipline..Plain and Simple

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  1. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Tebow isn't going to do shit behind this OL and with these WRs. It's not about creativity, it's about the roster being garbage. Brick and Mangold fucking stink in man blocking schemes. Slauson has been terrible.
     
  2. ouchy

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    100% agree.
     
  3. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    You know your team is fucked when noone can agree on what the problem is. Lol
     
  4. LeonNYJ

    LeonNYJ Well-Known Member

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    Well the sad thing is that just about everything is the problem.

    Name one part of this team that you can say is in good shape. ST has been solid so far, that's about it.
     
  5. truthbtold

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    Our Field Goal Defense has been really solid so far :)
     
  6. akibud

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    If I had a penny for every time I mentioned the fact that I never wanted Rex Ryan as coach of this team. He was on the Ravens staff for 6 or 7 years, they interviewed him, and passed. Now, if he was such a great head coaching candidate, why as DC of that team did they pass on him? Because, they knew he would suck as a head coach, simple. We got shafted by Woody Johnson again. And stop talking about back to back AFC championship games. A good HC would have won a SB in one of those years.
     
  7. njjet

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    Discipline is an issue but the Jets also lack talent. There are only about 9 guy who could start for other teams IMO (Cromartie, Ferguson, Harris, Holmes, Keller, Mangold, Moore Po'uha and Revis). Discipline is important but you can't win without talent. There are some young guys who might develop but today we lack talent to become a championship team even with discipline. If there was more discipline we might not have been embarrassed but we still would have lost to the 49er.
     
  8. TNJet

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    Parcell bails before they win a SB though
     
  9. TNJet

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    Not with Sanchez
     
  10. akibud

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    yea, you're right. Ryan was the wrong pick for the team, and then he compounded things by picking Sanchez. There goes another 5 to 7 years of my life. Hopefully, Woody jerkoff Johnson will be so pissed off when Romney gets creamed next month, he will be in a bad enough mood to clean house Tanny, Ryan and Sanchez...
     
  11. JaxSuzy

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    Supersonic I agree with you. What made it click for me was after the game when Rex gave the team 2 days off to "think about it" - he sounded like my Mom trying to guilt trip me.

    WTF? He should have them watching film and practicing catches etc! I get it that pro ballers won't stand for being benched like college coaches do (thinking of Spurrier at SC), but there have to be some consequences for poor play.
     
  12. RIPJimLeonhard

    RIPJimLeonhard Well-Known Member

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    Which is exactly what Rex did a horrible job of last year. If I recall correctly, LT said he was discouraged from taking a leader role on the team, because of the fact that he wasn't a captain. Rex made a terrible call picking captains last year, so now this year he has eliminated all captains all together...... but now nobody is stepping up and naturally taking any leader role and we're sitting here without anybody to keep these guys motivated in the huddle and to get the team under control. Rex even admitted last year he had no idea about how bad the locker room was, you know who did though? The players. But nobody stopped the locker room from falling apart, cause the leaders we had (Richardson, Woody) were gone and the leader we had left (LT) felt it wasn't his place, being a third down back and all, can't blame him for feeling that way.
     
  13. al_toon_88

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    Teams take on the personality of their head coach.

    So that's what you get under Rex Ryan: a lot of bluster and BS in between getting your ass kicked on Sundays.
     
  14. supersonic

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    Exactly. Rex made his most talented guys captains. What he should have done is made guys who can relay his objectives to the team captains. Santonio a captain? Geez.
     
  15. supersonic

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    What makes you think you can't bench pro's? Coaches with balls have no problem benching guys. Fumble on a Parcells coached team and see what happens.
     
  16. supersonic

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    You can't assess talent until you install discipline. People who don't get that are constantly crying about a talent problem. There are plenty of cases where guys get traded who were mediocre do great elsewhere. And in cases like the Patriots, their free agents go elsewhere and never seem to do nearly as much as when they were with the Pats. That Pats have been through a myriad of coaching and management changes as other teams try to poach their talent. Newsflash....other than the QB position over the years the Patriots talent has not been much different than than of the Jets or the rest of the league for that matter. They have better discipline and an intelligent approach. They win regardless. They lost Pioli who was suppose to be the GM guru of the world. How is he doing over in KC? Swap him out for Tanny and keep Rex what do you have? An undisciplined team. People who blame the talent just don't get it. Talent plays a role, but in a league with salary cap and parity, a disciplined approach from the HC is what comes first. It is not possible to evaluate talent without first having a disciplined approach.
     

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