Kevin Smith is a beast!!!!!!!!!

Tennessee's QB was injured for the most part of the season and now that he's healthy, they are about to win the SEC East and play LSU in the SEC championship.

Alabama is one of the most streaky teams in the country, but Nick Saban will turn them into a powerhouse in no time - he's working on a Top 5 recruiting class right now.

 

No. I was making a point that Todd Reesing is actually in a GOOD conference and he still isn't getting Heisman hype and college awards hype.

It's going to be even harder to get recognition out of C-USA.

I don't get why you doubt my knowledge so much, I know we disagree on a lot of things, but at least I put up a good argument. I know what I'm talking about for the most part, especially when it comes to college football.

 

No but Kansas sure was

 

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=719772

Kevin Smith is the 32nd NFL prospect according to rivals

 

Smith has single handedly won 8 games for UCF this year. Its the top RB award, fan base has no basis when giving awards out fairly.

Kevin Smith Leads the UCF offense as well, and after UCF struggled against ECU, and USF, he started powering forward and has UCF on a 5 game win streak.

Kevin is a workhorse, with multiple games of over 40+ carries, proving his durability, which is another quality of a good RB.

That is what the Doak is about right?

All that being said, i do agree. It is extremely hard to build up steam when nobody knew who you were a year ago. But when you're statistically 1st or 2nd in almost every RB catagory, there is no reason you should be left out of the top 3.

 

Strength of Schedule means WAY TOO MUCH in college football...Kevin Smith will always be overlooked, unless he does is again next season. Example: Colt Brennan.

 

As a fan of the Big Ten, I'll be the first to day that this is completely false, he isn't the best RB in the Big Ten, he may not even be in the top 3. Mendenhall of Illinois and Wells from OSU are better than him, and he is on equal ground as Ringer of MSU. He is a workhorse but that's all he brings. Kevin Smith is probably better than him.

 

A lot of crazy talk going on in this thread, I'll try and uncover the basics here.

Kevin Smith should absolutely be in the final 3 for the Doak Walker Award. There is no question or argument that can be made to say he hasn't been one of the best three running backs in college football this past season. Under 25 carries just three times all season long, led his team to what I imagine has to be the best season in school history, and even put the fear of god into a Texas team in probably the biggest game in school history. All due respect to Rice, McFadden, and Hart, but this should have been Smith's award to lose, so to not even have him top 3 is more a bit baffling.

As far as the argument that McFadden is better than Smith because McFadden was recruited to an SEC school and Smith wasn't... That's insane.

 

If McFadden got 30 to 40 carries a game against those terrible C-USA defenses he'd have well over 2000 yards. Kevin Smith has 330 carries and his season isn't over yet -- he'll most likely end up with 400. McFadden has 272 and he has to split carries with Felix Jones(114 carries for 1032 yards and 11 TDs)Peyton Hillis (46 for 238 and 3 TDs) , and talented sophomore Michael Smith (39 for 291 and 3 TDs). If McFadden was Arkansas' only offensive weapon, like Smith is for UCF, Run DMC would have amazing stats...and he'd be doing it in the best conference in football, not Conference USA which is a bottom level conference.

He has 1500 rushing yards right now and he plays in the SEC. You can't even compare the two conferences.

It isn't insane to say that McFadden is better than Smith because he was better prospect coming out of high school...how is that insane? McFadden is by far the better player and the best running back. I agree that Smith got ripped off by not being in the top 3, but it's McFadden's award and no one is going to take it from him.

Kevin Smith's numbers wouldn't be nearly as dominant if he played in the SEC. Guaranteed.

 

I like how you throw out that McFadden's teammates are so great that he has to split carries with them, but you don't realize that maybe that's a sign of something. When every guy on the team that touches the ball in the running game is putting up monster stats, either it means that it's just the Arkansas running game or maybe the SEC rush defense for the team they were beating on wasn't quite as stout as one thinks. Not to mention, every year there's on average three D1A/FBS RBs that hit the 300 carry mark. This means that not every runner out there is capable of getting so many carries and still being effective. I'm not saying that McFadden is or isn't one of those guys, but the fact that he has a wealth of running options behind him certainly helps him a lot more than it hurts. You could say that he would have more carries without Jones and Hillis, but at the same time he might not quite have the big plays that pad those stats of his either if he's forced to be on the field as much as a true hammer like Kevin Smith is.

Also, factor in what everyone seems to overlook. Arkansas is an SEC team, with SEC talent, playing in the SEC conference. UCF is a CUSA team, wuth CUSA talent, playing in CUSA. That means that Smith's teammates compared to the competition they're playing against are even, so the way to judge how he's playing is by how much better he is than everyone around him. It's quite obvious that he's been the best player on the field just about every game he's played this season, especially in the CUSA games. Sure McFadden's defenses are better, but so is the dominant run blocking Arkansas OL he has in front of him. You can throw out that Smith has been excelling against weaker competition, but he's also been doing it with weaker talent on his side, which, in football evens the score quite a bit, I'd say.

As for the argument that McFadden is better because he was more highly touted in HS, we're WELL past the point that that matters. Maybe up until midway through their freshman year that actually counts for something, but right now they are the numbers 1 and 2 best backs in college football. I could really care a lot less who was more highly thought of beating on 5'6 future Economics majors in HS.

 

I'm just going to say it again...

C-USA's talent vs. SEC's talent

The two don't even compare.

Smith is definitely one of the best three backs in the country and he was robbed by not being named a Doak finalist, but McFadden is the best and he plays against top competition.

 

Add another 46 carries, 219 yards rushing, and a TD.

BTW, he also passed Forte for the most rushing yards in the country today. I can go with McFadden being the best back in college football, but he gets a breather. Smith is the UCF offense, and everyone knows it. Again today he put the team on his back...He's definitely top 3 in the country - and the way he runs late in the game is a testament to how tough this guy is.

 

man this thread blew up...
24K becomes the 1st 2000+ yard rusher in FL football history, along with passing forte to clinch NCAA rushing leader. Everyone knows the ball is going to 24K and yet only 1 team has held him under 100.

I never meant what i said to start into an argument like this, I DO believe DMC deserves the Doak, and even the Heisman. It was the fact that Rice AND Hart both made it to the final 3.. thats horse shit.

and again, statistically speaking, UCF has faced tougher defenses [From what i read, i didnt actually look it up]. Granted CUSA isn't the talent the SEC is, 24K and UCF go up against talent equal to themselves, and they continue to outclass every opponent they play. Had UCF beaten either Texas or USF, this conversation wouldn't be taking place; UCF more likely then not, would be T25 and 24K would get his recognition.

oh, and 24K holds on to the ball...:beer:

 

OT: GM, sorry I missed your message.. the game IS on tv. ESPN 12pm. Erin Andrews is workin the sidelines:beer:

 

The Orlando Slantinel likes to spin things... Steel structures bend... skyscrapers, bridges, they sway.

A few got nervous and the stadium has been stress tested multiple times.

Last week, they didn't play it until the student section started doing it on their own.
You see this gem?