Agreed. Jets fans (should) have learned the hard way with Hill. Personally, a WR's ability to create separation in and out of breaks, and their ability to high point a ball (which encompasses having good hands) are THE most important attributes a WR can have. I mean look at Kerley's TD this week vs the Raiders- Im not sure Hill would've caught that even though he's 7 inches taller because Kerley had to high point the ball. Yeah, and 23 by the time the draft is.
Hill was different than speed guys like Lee and Watkins He's learning still to this point, he wasn't polished when he came out Watkins is a guy you can put anywhere on the field, he's a weapon he instantly makes this team better, Hill is a deep threat right now who will likely end up as a bigger version of Mike Wallace when he reaches his peak
Stephen Hill will never reach that level. Lee and Watkins have so many more traits that help them succeed than just speed. Hill does not.
What my opinion of Kyle Wilson has to do with this conversation is beyond me. I don't think we have a shot at Watkins if we end up 7-9 and drafting around #15. Right now, things could and will change, but Watkins and Evans will be long gone. The second tier WRs....like Lee, might be a reach in Mid Rd 1. I wouldn't mind Jace Amaro or Ebron in Rd 1, I know most uneducated Jet Fans would go nuts drafting a TE in Rd 1. Amaro plays like a WR at the TE position. Don't be surprised if Abberderis is drafted in very late Rd 2 or early Rd 3.
would LOVE Amaro in the first. Green Bay is a team in the TE market, so we would have to pick before them.
Amaro is a good pick. We could get a good WR in the second, probably, but spending your first two on receivers itches me the wrong way a bit for some reason when our line and secondary are so bad. Maybe if we sign some good FA's in the offseason I'd be okay with it.
There are reasons why players leave school early, and certainly his age could have something to do with it. He may want to move onto a new part in his life, especially if he wins the national championship. He is of the age of a 5th year senior in college. He's not a baby, and he's certainly matured enough physically. His age isnt an "issue", I've never said that, but it could push him to come out this year.
He graduated high school at 19. He hit the age limit for the State of Florida at the 8th game of his senior year, so he didn't get to play the remaining games on the schedule. His team went to the State Finals that year and lost.
I can see him leaving after this year and entering the draft. He went to the same high school as Santonio Holmes (Glades Central). It is known for having one of the best high school football teams in the nation, with more football players in the NFL and in the NCAA than any other high school.
you said speed is over rated, thats an opinion you may be right or wrong in both cases but I reference your opinion on the Wilson pick as to say we never truly know how things will work out I'd trade up for Watkins to be honest we have the picks to do so and we'll have a good amount of cap space to add depth
Speed is definitely an important element in certain circumstances. Fans look to much at TIMED speed & track speed instead of "football speed". From an evaluating perspective it should be more about movement..how smooth is he in & out of breaks?Does he get separation? Does he have a 2nd gear?Hands or body catcher?
I said speed is overrated at the WR position in the NFL by a lot of Fans, that's pretty much a fact. Quickness, being elusive & football speed is more important than straight line speed. You may be too young to remember a player the Jets drafted from Texas in 1980....Lam Jones, a world class track star that couldn't play football. I hope Idzik isn't in trade up mode, especially in Rd 1 on draft day. The cost to move up to get into a position to draft Watkins will be prohibitive.
yeah too young to remember that as for a trade up we need a legit receiver, Watkins will be Elite Falcons aren't beating the heads against the wall for going to get Julio Jones
I know most are only thinking Watkins or Evans as RD1 options if we pick at #13 but why isnt Davante Adams is this discussion he is every bit the playmakers those 2 are and if he attended LSU instead of Fresno St the attitude towards his abilities would be very different.
Huge fan of DA. I had us taking him in one of my mocks. If he decides to come out he should be in the discussion for best wideout in the draft. His numbers for 2 years are just flat out ridiculous.
I like Adams, but his numbers are really skewed. He plays against inferior competition for a team that passes the ball 50 times per game. I would take Jordan Matthews before Adams.
The falcons where a complete team that thought they needed one more elite part to make a Super Bowl push. We lack talent and depth almost everywhere on the roster. Completely different situations.
