hey check this video out its even more impressive, its from when kellen was a sophomore, first game of the season. notice his accuracy and strength on the deep corner route on the run, its pretty impressive considering the defense was playing three deep. i dont think current pennington can make that throw. (ok so i dont have enough posts to be able to link so im gonna try something creative, just add watch?v=mRQm7ABm40c&feature=related to youtube.com)
Come on guys, are we really all just sold on Kellen's arm strength? Chad has thrown some pretty long balls himself in his day, like this beautiful 60+ yarder to save our 06 season for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxe_0_J6iCs
Clemens underthrew Coles on the flea-flicker vs Pittsburgh which caused the ankle injury. A well thrown ball would have been a TD and we'd have had Coles for the rest of the year. Had Chad done that you guys would all be out here with your pitchforks in the air. Do we play Arizona State this year?
Once again, reference the Cincinnati game. I realize that is a reality which doesn't jive with the popular myth created on this board, but there is footage of it if anyone cares to look. But who needs facts?
He was off and the receiver had to adjust. He was off by several yards and the receiver made an amazing play. Chad to Moss in 2006 was a better looking ball, also 65 yards in the air. Now I think Chad is done and Clemens deserves his shot, but lets not polish his nob over this throw. The second throw was much nicer. On the run with good velocity. Chad to Moss was sweeeet.
Yes, who needs facts when we can point to the irrefutable evidence of the sun shining on a dog's ass? Case closed. Well played, Seafood.
What the fuck does that even mean? The guy made the throw you said he can't make, go look at it. He didn't even need to use a flea flicker to hit his man on the money, just some blocking. Imagine that.
When did I say he can't make it? Chad can make those throws on rare occasion (and guys like you rush like a madman to mark them on your calendar), but the fact is he cannot make them consistently. And hasn't been able to for about 5 years. And he is a detriment to the health of our wideouts, much like Vinny was at the end of his tenure.
Well if you want to be an ass about it Pennington threw it in the air 60 yds (not a high floater) to Santana Moss against SD in the playoffs with a torn rotator cuff. If I remember after the throw he gave a bicep muscle pump. So you are wrong, that throw looked almost exactly like the one in this Clemens video.
In the OP video, Clemens' mechanics are reminiscent of Tom Brady's. Brady has that big step, angled-leg, off the back leg power throw with correct hip movement going into the throw. The mechanics were perfect. If Clemens can be comfortable, calm and tough in the pocket, he may be able to do that consistently.
Chad throws them when they need to be thrown, and when there's pass protection and guys are open. We've been rattling off examples for you guys for years but all you come back with is "he doesn't do it enough", "he got lucky" or "that's the only one". Then an hour later you're back to "he can't throw the ball 10 yards." You're going to have to do better than that. NFL coaches whose jobs are on the line with each season are not going to put a guy in a game who can't make all the throws. They're going to put a guy in the game who knows what he's doing and can move the chains, despite what a bunch of crybaby, loudmouth, idiot fans on a message board say. Go play your Madden game if you want to see all bombs, that's not how they do it in the NFL.
Hahaha, that's awesome, I love reading the extremely isolated instances of Chad throwing a somewhat long pass that doesn't look like a third grader threw it, it brings back memories. Isolated ones. I used to play the same game as you, fight on the losing side of the argument because I couldn't let my fandom allow me to see reality. I'd look at his stats and say 'Hey, this guy is ahead of the curve, he's rated above the other guys'. I looked at the isolated passes that he threw past the intermediate zone and say that he could make those passes and just didn't. In 2006, I saw the beginning of the year when he had worked on his form and made some throws that were uncharacteristically long for Chad, and thought he was 'back' from his injuries. Then that devolved into more of the same. It was like Hackett was calling plays again. I tried not to pay attention to how he always looked underneath when players were open downfield. You can make a zillion excuses for Chad, but if you look at the body of work objectively, you can't deny how badly his skills have diminished. And we are not talking about some kind of miniscule drop-off in talent from some game-breaking ability, we are looking at a rather large drop-off from an already mediocre set of skills. You can pretend all day long that Chad makes the smart play, but we saw with Herm that when you play it safe you only get so far, and then you get beaten by QBs with ability and balls. The best part is that reality is sinking in for most of us, and the contingent of starry-eyed, hind-tit-sucking player-fans who hang around hoping that guy gets his stuff back is diminishing, so we don't have to put up with moronic arguments as much on this subject. By the way, I never said that Chad couldn't make that pass, only that he would not have. His days of playing well under pressure went with his throwing arm.
Super Bowl-winning coach Jon Gruden started Bruce Gradkowski for 11 games, and he's an OFFENSIVE coach. At least Mangini has the excuse of being a D guy. Good coaches start less-than-average QBs all the time.
Here we go with the Legendary Bomb to Santana Moss once again. We have to talk about a Pass that Chad threw Four years ago when every half ass Qb in the league throws Five to ten of them a year. The mere fact that every Jet Fan even remembers the one quality long ball Chad has throw since the day he started is a disgrace in itself. Everybody remembers the 1 and only one long play of a mediocre carear.
