i knew that was coming. so they said it would be about whether he could handle the pain and now all of a sudden he hasnt practiced and its not about the pain its about the coach protecting him? honeslty i dont know if something has changed but doesnt that seem a bit fishy? either way everyone was so sure he would play and would tough it out yet he isnt on the field, whoevers decision that was really doesnt make much difference. the point to it is that he is still a rookie and we really dont know much about him so please dont assume because you want him to be tough and gut it out that he will surely be on the field every single week.
Expectations are certainly low regarding this game and I don't think the Jets are an Ironclad lock to win it. Why? Because these are exactly the kind of games the Jets usually lose. Yeah, TB is next to last against the run but somehow, someway, the Jets have found ways to lose games they're supposed to win in the strangest of ways. Perhaps this is the game TB stops the run. We're in deep shit if that happens.. Sanchez isn't even gonna board the plane so I wonder just how the game plan will change and how the team's mindset will be going in. You have to wonder just how much "confidence" the players have in Clemens after last week's stellar performance utilizing a game plan that was basically run, run, pass, punt. What happens if Clemens stinks up the joint? I just have a certain uneasiness regarding this game. I'm glad Ryan took this opportunity to bench Sanchez too. Make no mistake, it's Sanchez first benching of his pro career. Perhaps the kid will graduate from diapers now..
Aren't you the one who was complaining about people making judgments about players based solely off of the stat sheet and not watching the game? Look at Freeman's performance against Carolina last week, and tell me the guy is better than Sanchez. You have come up with some idiotic posts before but this one takes the stupid cake.
I smell an ugly victory for the Jets this weekend. This isn't the same team that will lay eggs @ SF and @SEA like last year, but we are dealing with a lot of pressure and one of the worst backup QBs in football. Face it, KC is what he is. He almost blew the Thursday game for the 8 mins he was in the game for. Jets 19 Bucs 10
Run run run and then run some more. Atleast we are playing tampa. It could be worse. Lets hope that Kellen is ultra smart with the football and doesn't force a single pass. If TB jumps into the lead early it could be a long afternoon for all of us and the team. Since the decision has been made there is nothing to do but get behind our beloved Jets no matter who is at QB. GO! JETS!
he tweaked his knee against Carolina, and came back in after a series. That looked pretty bad, but the pain was way too little to call it tough right? the fact is we have no clue, we go on what we are told. The limitations of being a fan. we were told its a PCL and Sanchez is trying to play, so we'd thought he would play because it didn't seem that bad. He a tough kid because i've been told that by scouting reports from USC and hearing it from his teammates and coaching staff. so through deductive reasoning, its either worse than expected or Ryan is making a safe decision in a season that doesn't mean much.
you're not the best poster when it comes to QBs. You just don't have the eye. Perhaps you saw Freeman's little ESPN highlights from his 1st game as a pro and got angry that Sanchez doesn't look just like him. Thankfully, Sanchez doesn't look like him. Sanchez doesn't get retarded in the redzone. Only Schotty does.
I would rather Sanchez sit rather than risk making it worse. His long term health is important to this franchise.
or he wasnt tough enough to tough it out and play through the pain, really it doesnt matter to me which it is. im not going to place expectations of toughness on the guy. what i had said was that there was nothing to base all of the optimism that he would tough it out on. "tweaking" his knee didnt make me think he was tough. the fact he has had 3 knee issues in the past 16 months makes me think he may have knee issues. i have no problem with them keeping him out. i have no problem with him saying hey guys i am not the best option this week as i will be limited. if that were the case. my issue is with the amount of people on the site who said he will start cause he is tough. they were completely dismissive of the fact that clemens may start this game simply because they didnt want to think about it. i have no problem with him not starting, i really dont care if he wanted to play or not. ryan may be protecting him and telling him what to say, i dont have a problem with that either. i just dont wanna hear the next time he "tweaks" something that he is tough and will come back simply because the posters want him to.
Sanchez not traveling to Tampa? Ok, so I read through the first 145 posts in this thread and only saw this once. I apologize for not continuing through the rest to get more of MB's KC bashing and everyones rebuttle. Why is Sanchez not even traveling with the team?
His press conference is on newyorkjets.com if you want to listen. He said that instead of traveling he will be getting 3 days of treatment. As much as Rex says this has absolutely nothing to do with the opponent, he's obviously full of shit. He knows the Jets have to win out and needs a healthy Sanchez for the good teams we face weeks 15-17. This is Rex managing the team and pushing all in on being able to win @Tampa without a strong passing attack.
Maybe you should think before you post. Sanchez has a lower QB rating than Freeman. Do you disagree with that statement?
And.....whats your point? Do you think that it takes a great eye to read the QB ratings and realize that Mark has a 63.7 and that Josh has a 64.1?
So whats the over under for how many more Clemens bashing posts the so called jets fans will make on this thread between now and kickoff on Sunday?
I'm not trying to attack you personally, but it takes a damn idiot to think .4 points on a fucking rookie QB's rating actually matters. 63.7 to 64.1 - give me a fuckin' break. Mark Sanchez has more wins (6) than this joke of a quarterback has number of starts (5). Sanchez has thrown 297 passes to Freeman's 169. What's the over under on you whacking to your Kellen Clemens and/or Josh Freeman Fathead on Sunday night?
If I had a fuckin' break I would give it to you. Its a really simple fact question: Does Mark Sanchez have a lower QB rating than Josh Freeman? Answer: Yes. I am not arguing about wins versus starts etc. Just pointing out that while everybody may want to rip Freeman as a lousy QB he actually has a better QB rating than Sanchez does and Snachez's QB rating has actually improved a bit lately as he has improved in the last 2 games.
I think the point is that for the most part Sanchez has played better than his QB rating indicates. He had 3 completely dreadful games that when averaged in with the 9 others makes it look like he's been bad all year. If you've been watching him, you know he hasn't been bad all year. Week 4 @NO 14/27 138 Yards 0 TD 3 INT Week 6 vs. Buff 10/29 119 Yards 0 TD 5 INT Week 11 @NE 8/21 136 Yards 1 TD 4 INT Combined: 32/77 - 41% 393 Yards 1 TD 12 INT QB Rating: 22.72 The other 9 games: 126/220 - 57% 1656 Yards 10 TD 5 INT QB Rating: 86.85 Now obviously you can't just ignore the three terrible games. They happened and he played poorly. That isn't the point, the point is that he hasn't played like a bad QB most of the time like that 64 (or whatever) passer rating would indicate. Most of the time (75% of the games) he has played well and kept us in a good position to win. He seems to be a real streaky QB so far. Hopefully as he grows he becomes more consistent. He's already good far more often than not, but when he's not good - he's terrible.
I don't disagree with you. I didn't say that I thought it mattered. Its simply a statistical fact. About the same as you getting on your knees and guzzling Mark Sanchez love loads every night until he returns to the starting lineup.
If you have no problem with anything why are you creating problems? He does appear tough. You think he plays like a pussy? He seems to play the game with the same kind of abandon as some of the tougher QB's in the business. I get you don't like him, there are many things you can criticize Sanchez for.............. but playing like a Pussy? Come on Alley you have to be shitting me with this line you are taking. That being said: I read in several places that Sanchez actually tore his PCL (partially). Well I had the same exact injury a few months back. There is no surgery, just some rest and physical therapy. The injury is a gigantic pain in the ass. It is not a matter of being tough or not being tough, the injury fucking hurts. You can not rest on your knee, squat and walking is tough, shit getting in bed is difficult. Safe to say if Sanchez is getting laid it aint from the missionary position. I played the rest of the game and continued playing for a few weeks after I hurt it and that was fucking stupid. I also began playing the week after therapy started, after I rested a month and that was too fucking soon. I am 39, while Sanchez is 23 so I would say his time frame is much more condensed. Structurally this injury doesn't pose too big of a problem for an athlete as it is a totally freak injury and the PCL is the strongest ligament in the knee. The chance of injuring it further is low. However you do need a very high pain threshhold and playing isn't going to allow it to heal properly. I am cool with the Jets saying to him, " sit down and STFU!". Also he is going to get hit and with this injury if you get hit your leg will go completely numb. It happened to me several times both before, during and after therapy, when I took a hit and landed on the knee. I couldnt put weight on the leg for several minutes. Too summarize, this injury is a very painful one until therapy takes effect and it is a good thing keeping him out a week because a mistake prone rookie isn't going to be right.
