Justin Smiley

Jets n Boys · May 1, 2010

Miamipuck said: ↑

Because he is a walking injury....... That being said, should the Jets sign him? I want to make my answer very clear.........
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Is that your final answer?

Jets n Boys · May 1, 2010

CatoTheElder said: ↑

Did you completely miss this or just ignore it:

If the dude cannot stay on the field than there is no reason to sign him. That leads to the conclusion of:
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Wow...he missed half a season in 07, missed 3 games in 08 and one game in 09. He didn't miss a game in the first three seasons in the NFL. Thats the definition of "can not stay on the field"? I've seen worse cases.

How are you so injury prone if somebody rolled over you and broke your leg? It can happen to anyone. It happened to Leon. To conclude that if someone had their leg broken by some 350+ pound DL they become a walking injury risk, that's just terrible.

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We have the same depth we had last year when we had arguably the best OL in football. We lost one lineman and gained one. Our OL is likely fixed for the next few years, and I'd rather not bring in another "depth" guy whose starting experience makes him a bit more expensive on a multi-year contract. Keep what we have, use the extra space on extensions and new contracts next year.

vinsjets · May 1, 2010

Scikotic said: ↑

Im not sure he would sign with us, but I will say that Smiley is one hell of a cool guy. I waited on him 5 years ago when I was working at Outback. He dropped a $100 tip on me because Alex Smith stiffed me (no homo) the time before. Prick.

Go figure, the OL guys are usually cool, and the QB's are usually pricks. Cody Pickett was a cocksucker too. Oh yea, so is Vernon Davis, that cheap fuck.

Wait....what was this thread about again?
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Fun fact, I waited on Justin Smiley and Jeff Faine in March. Both really cool.

vinsjets · May 1, 2010

Jets n Boys said: ↑

Wow...he missed half a season in 07, missed 3 games in 08 and one game in 09. He didn't miss a game in the first three seasons in the NFL. Thats the definition of "can not stay on the field"? I've seen worse cases.

How are you so injury prone if somebody rolled over you and broke your leg? It can happen to anyone. It happened to Leon. To conclude that if someone had their leg broken by some 350+ pound DL they become a walking injury risk, that's just terrible.
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You know, bad luck happens, I get that.. But do you know what the hell you're talking about with Smiley?

From yesterdays Miami Herald:

There is a good reason the Dolphins asked Justin Smiley not to show up for the offseason conditioning program when it began in late March: The team is concerned their left guard would blow out his already weakened right shoulder by merely lifting weights.

That's how bad things have gotten for the gritty, wily, tough, often injured Smiley.

The Dolphins have been trying to trade Smiley for over a month. No other NFL team has shown enough interest in Smiley to convince the Dolphins to trade their starting left guard of the last two seasons. Miami doesn't simply want to give him up for an afterthought sixth- or seventh-round pick.

But there is probably no choice. No team has offered anything higher. And I would predict no other team will offer anything higher anytime soon.

So Smiley is still on the team -- for now.

"I'm not sure where that whole thing is right now," Dolphins coach Tony Sparano said Friday. "And I'm not really skirting it. I really am not. At this particular time, right now, we are not sure and he is a member of my football team right now."

He may be a member of the team but that could change before the Dolphins report for the mandatory full-squad mini-camp at the end of May. By then the team hopes to have the issue resolved one way or the other.

The solutions?

It is clear the Dolphins intend to go in a direction that doesn't include Smiley. The club has told him he still might be brought back for 2010, but who is kidding whom here?

Smiley's shoulder is shot. The Dolphins know it. The San Francisco 49ers knew it when Smiley signed with Miami as an unrestricted free agent in 2008. Smiley missed the final eight games of the season with the shoulder that required surgery in 2007. He injured the shoulder again in 2009 and missed one game and was a backup in three others because of that injury.

The 2007 surgery apparently didn't go very well. Smiley, according to two sources, has lost strength in the shoulder over the past two years. He often struggles to lift his right arm over his head and has lost some of the punch and explosion generated at the shoulder.

That wouldn't be a problem for a school teacher. But Smiley makes his living as an NFL offensive linemen. He is supposed to push and punch at 300-pound defensive players and the torque for that is generated at the shoulder and elbow. For Smiley, the shoulder isn't generating the necessary torque.

The problem for Smiley is also that lifting weights to strengthen the shoulder isn't really the solution. Lifting extremely heavy weights, you see, could cause another injury to the shoulder.

So while he could come back and probably play and contribute at his current weakended condition, the Dolphins and probably even Smiley recognize he is on borrowed time. More games or more strenuous weight lifting would probably land Smiley on another injured list.

That is the reason he is on the trade block. That is the reason no one has jumped at the opportunity to trade for him.

Simply, for the Dolphins, the future at left guard once belonged to Justin Smiley. Now it belongs to rookie John Jerry. And Smiley?

He may have played his final game for the Dolphins.
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