You're about to see how much worse you can do than 40 something injured HOF narcissist. As if we haven't been seeing it since 2012.
We absolutely have seen that before. Probably the better part of the last twelve years. But I don’t know if revamping a team to suit AR with players and CS at the detriment of the rest of the team only to achieve nothing but discontent and massive firing was a solution.
I know we have been scarred, and I definitely I do not want to go to #28 or #29 offense again, which is what we had under Saleh before Rodgers, but #25, which is what we had with Rodgers should not be the end goal, either. We need to strive to do better and with Fields I think we have a better chance than with Rodgers who is also a year older than when he led us to #25.
Oh no one's claiming it was a solution. It was a plan, not even a bad one really, the torn achilles and missing an entire year taints our view of how it COULD have gone. My point is Rodgers was so much better than any QB we've seen play for the Jets outside of one year of Fitz since 2012. Fields has the potential to be so much worse, and in all likelihood will be.
I'm talking strictly about QB play. Fields is below average and we have one competent WR for him to throw to as things currently stand. We may score more because of the way he uses his legs and that opening things up for our running game, but I'd prepare for some of the most frustrating throws you've ever seen.
Still Fields was the best overall QB option for us including Rodgers. Rodgers had Davante, who likely would have still ended up with the Rams even if Rodgers stayed as offer was too good plus he is a West Coast guy. And still #25 offense. Plus a year older. Fields was the right move. We have to try to do better even taking a chance we might ultimately end up worse. Though I don't think Fields would be worse on the same team than 42 year older Rodgers, whom I expect to further decline this year. Father time is undefeated and Fields has some potential to improve too, while for Rodgers it's been downhill and it's coming faster and faster as you get older and older.
The plan was a Hail Mary shot, hoping Rodgers will be Brady. I agree it was worth it. But JD fucked up OL 1st year, sinking Rodgers, and also Rodgers wasn't Brady in the second. So maybe it was worth it, but it failed. It was always going to be 1-2 years deal anyway. What we do not want to do now is fail to admit that it failed and continue the failed course. So, AG and Mooge made the right decision to move on, and furthermore signed the best available QB on the marked IMO, who also has potential to get better. Let's see how it works out, but it was the right move.
I think Fields was/is the best overall "hey you never know" lottery ticket option at QB that was out there for us to take. That isn't the same thing as the best bet to produce in a Tanner Engstand led offense. I'll take Rodgers, a vet like Winston, or really any QB skillset that is more in line with what we at least know Engstand was familiar with being around in Detroit all day over Fields if chasing production probability is the primary goal there. Fields is also a bigger hail mary shot then Rodgers was fwtw/imo
Let's see what happens. Mooge got exactly whom I wanted at QB, so I am pretty happy with that. If Engstrand is any good, I think we will be competitive this year, at least that's my expectation. If not, we will have a pretty high pick in what is expected to be a good QB class in 2026.
I'm all good for playing it out and seeing what happens. I'm super skeptical, but I'm not 100% discounting the possibility Engstrand can surprise, and unlike 2023 *this* surrounding downtrend team setting makes a lot more sense to take this type of lottery ticket shot at QB. I just don't think there is enough recognition going on about how much lower the offense floor might end up being here while moving on from Rodgers lol
not even close. The risk was far greater with the 41 year old that cost twice as much money than the far cheaper 25 year old not sure why people always lose their heads with this stuff
This. Very much this. I don't know why everyone is expecting a bad QB to come into a bad situation and excel. That's putting WAY too much faith, I'd argue totally blind faith, in an offensive staff full of people that have never done the jobs they are about to do for us. Two different hail mary's. Fields hail mary ends the half. Rodgers hail mary ends the game. The odds of Fields working out are just as bad if not worse than Rodgers but the fallout is significantly different.
Expectations and being a Jets fan, is a dangerous combination. However I can't wait to see all the, they're not using Fields correctly! It's going to be a great year.
My two cents. The Engstrand led offense much like in Detroit is heavy behind center QB. which also optimizes their running game. The absolute opposite of AR shot gun, OL man blocking and a running game that everyone and his brother knew it was coming especially in the inept red zone. Last year team performance set a low bar for Fields, and with AR here again we were not going to change much except to accommodate AR. That is not where the future should be. I’ll take the five+ from Fields than the status quo, the loss of Wilson, and no future whatsoever, with a long shot at the playoff in either scenario.
the fallout is a big deal, the Rodgers gamble was a disaster anyway did you really want to sit through another year of that? The Jets both lost and were unwatchable last season with Rodgers
Right again I'm not saying they are the same magnitude, I'm saying it's two totally different things. We're night putting every single egg in the Fields basket the way we did Rodgers. I'm talking purely about the likelihood that they will be competent QBs. People severely underestimate the production we got last year from Rodgers because our record was awful and the team was unbearable. I don't think we're going to come even close to getting those numbers from Fields, arm and legs combined. I can't imagine we're gonna be too enjoyable to watch this year. The difference is we can move on from Fields pretty painlessly next year.
But who cares about Rodgers' personal statistics. Soxx and Rodgers' mom I guess. Many not even his mom.
