Just say no to Cutler

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  1. MSUJet85

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    Because unlike Cutler who is just using the hype to soar up the draft, Ben was the #2 until just like Cutler could, Rivers went ahead of Ben, two totally different situations, and also you can't compare since the Steelers were already built and just needed a QB, we however need just about everything on the offensive side of the ball including a QB.
     
  2. lightning

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    ben was the #2 but he also wasn't considered to be a high 1st round pick right away if i remember correctly
     
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    I doubt that the #2 QB from the end of the season had a low grade like that
     
  4. Capt. Spaulding

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    I think the #4 stigma may be what most of don't like. I don't want Cutler at 4. I don't want Brick at 4. But what we need to do is look at who we have. Is Jay better than who we have or who we could get either in the draft or FA? Probably. Is Brick better under the same circumstances? Yup. We need to pick someone, don't we? Will they be better than who we have right now? DEFINATELY. BTW I want NEITHER. At 4, at least.
     
  5. Dr. Christian Troy

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    How does anyone with any knowledge of college AND pro football still have Young rated ahead of Leinart or Cutler, or even in the top half of this draft?
    The list of future Jets qb's should read as follows: Brady Quinn (a risky wait that would probably backfire somehow considering how much "luck" we've had as a franchise). Matt Leinart. And Jay Cutler, period.
    The only single option that's worthy of being chosen over a qb is the D'Brickshaw because it's our second biggest need. Next is the rb need (hello Lendale!).
    And if the Jets were to draft Cutler, watch how many teams are looking to obtain his rights by the end of round1.

    For all the Young fans...a version of him already exists in the NFL. He wears #7 for the Dirty Birds and he's a bust. You kids playing Madden see how great a character like Mike Vick can be in the video game, at your control, and you think this "prototype" is the answer in the real world.
    The Michael Vick of Madden is one of the best players to ever step on a field.
    The Michael Vick of the NFL is gar-bage, and I wouldn't trade a 75% healthy Chad for him much less draft any version of him.
     
  6. parafly

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    You're right, we do need just about everything on the offensive side of the ball. That's why we need to start with the first and most important piece of a winning team, the QB.

    While it may be true that the Steelers had a more solid team two years ago than the Jets currently do, this does not mean Cutler can't be compared to Big Ben. In fact, I would say Cutler is more similar to Big Ben than any other QB in the draft this year.

    We need a QB for the future, period. I just hope it is Leinart or Cutler. Please no Vince Young....
     
  7. lightning

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    I never said what grade he had, but i know for sure it wasn't a top 10. Eli was really the only clear cut 1st rounder, untill of course the year that rivers had and of course big ben leading his team to respectability. Much like cutler:).
     
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    Actually eli was more hyped than any qb in the last few years, mostly because of a name.
     
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    I've started to hear Young may fall like a rock now. He had better have a perfect outing on pro day at his school, what with skipping the combine. Of the three QB's he is easilly the riskiest play.
     
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    I thought then and think now as well, that he'll be a better QB than Eli Manning
     
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    Man, we cannot agree on anything...:)
     
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    He should do well, especially with it being where it is most comfortable for him, the only one that actually need the combine is Cutler, because that is the only way he will sustain and possibly improve his stock.
     
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    Which is pretty sad, i think vince young not throwing probably SHOULD hurt his stock.
     
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    Young will be a bust. A QB cannot succeed on the NFL level if he runs better than he throws. Sure, Young looked good in the Championship game this past year, but there is no way an NFL defense allows that to happen.
     
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    Idk about that, but i just think he's too big of a risk to take for someone in our situation.
     
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    No it is too risky for him, just like Leinart, if you already are firmly a top 3 pick there is no reason to risk that standing in a neutral setting.
     
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    And because of attitudes like that the QB position will never improve, and it will limit the potential of a team. As for him running, if there is good weapons at WRs the defenses can't afford to ignore that for the QB. If Young develops his passing game, he can do anything to NFL defenses, he is too hard to defend.
     
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    Well Said! Get an OL with your next two picks. Martin and Houston will do for next year.
     
  19. ThunderbirdJet

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    But he isn't firmly top three anymore..... he is already dropping. I think some teams think he doesn't have complete confidence in his ability to perform. I've seen a couple of predictions already that he falls into the second half of round one.
     
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    LOL... I can't believe people think he (Martin) still can play at that high a level... and that Houston can carry the load because he played in 4 games
     

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