Yes, you are right its strange he normally makes a lot of sense. That Bills team was nasty, I'd be pissed if I was a Bills fan because a team that talented should have won the big one. Maybe its because they had all the pieces except an elite CB HAHA
that was a 47 yard FG on grass to win the SB. It was a very difficult kick. Buf lost that game on 2 plays- Bruce Smith not getting the bak outr of Hostetler's hand on the safety which would have been a TD if he takes the ball away and the Mark Ingram 3rd and long where he broke 25 tackles to get the first down which set up their last TD
If Bellicheat had Brady on one side of the ball and Revis on the other, he'd have to have his big toe fitted for his next SB ring b/c he'd run out of fingers.
Ok, so here is the complete list of Pro Bowlers and All-Pros by position on the Super Bowl winner from 1992 to 2011 as compiled from pro-football-reference. I arbitrarily picked 1992 because it covered 20 years worth of events and also included the entire Deion wins the Super Bowl era. It also neatly ties in with the beginning of the salary cap/free agency era. There are 5 positions that just jump out of the page at you when you look at them. These are the 5 positions that clearly dominate the best players lists on the teams that win the Super Bowls. QB - 14 Pro Bowl appearances and 3 All-Pros. WR - 10 Pro Bowl appearances and 2 All-Pros. C - 10 Pro Bowl appearances. SS - 9 Pro Bowl appearances and 5 All-Pros. RB - 8 Pro Bowl appearances and 6 All-Pros. Those are the 5 positions that have been the most impactful as evidenced by their appearance on Super Bowl winning teams. Now we get down to the positions that are often represented but don't dominate the way the 5 above do. RDE - 6 Pro Bowl appearances and 3 All-Pros. TE - 6 Pro Bowl appearances and 3 All-Pros. LT - 6 Pro Bowl appearances and 2 All-Pros. LG - 6 Pro Bowl appearances and 2 All-Pros. MLB/ILB - 6 Pro Bowl appearances and 1 All-Pro. FS - 6 pro Bowl appearances and 1 All-Pro. Next are the positions that occasionally give us a Pro Bowl appearance or All-Pro on the winning teams. RLB/ROLB - 4 Pro Bowl appearances and 3 All-Pros. RDT - 4 pro Bowl appearances and 2 All-Pros. LCB - 4 Pro Bowl appearances and 1 All-Pro. Then the positions that just don't figure in terms of high level talent and Super Bowl wins. LDE - 3 Pro Bowl appearances and 1 All-Pro. LLB - 2 Pro Bowl appearances and 1 All-Pro. RCB - 2 Pro Bowl appearances and 1 All-Pro. RT - 2 Pro Bowl appearances and 1 All-Pro. LDT/NT - 2 Pro Bowl appearances. FB - 2 Pro Bowl appearances. RG - 1 Pro Bowl appearance. The numbers are strong illumination on where the value lies on the football field. QB's are clearly the most valuable position on the field. WR's and TE's are helped by their intimate connection to those QB's. C's have maybe the most intimate (no homo intended) connection to the QB and they are the single position most likely to earn a Pro Bowl berth after QB's, since WR's have twice the opportunity to make the Pro Bowl and teammates have been selected for the Pro Bowl in the same year on a winning team (2006 Colts.) The people least likely to get selected for a Pro Bowl are strong-side offensive linemen, fullbacks, defensive tackles and linebackers and the guys who cover the #2 WR for a living. Tight ends are as likely to get selected to a Pro Bowl on one of those teams as the cornerbacks combined. So are free safeties. So are left guards. That tells you what the pecking order is. That the Jets have so much value tied up in their cornerbacks and so little in their safeties tells you why they are not a serious contender for a Super Bowl. Edited for consistency: I lumped the LDT/NT and the RLB/ROLB's together so I went back and did the same for the MLB/ILB's.
Revis has always been great. Only in 2010 when he came back from the hold out, those few games he was just "Good" but last year he was his usual great.
HOF defensive player sadly the first and only Jet defensive player that will be inducted into Canton (unless you include Ronnie Lott and Ty Law who don't count) LONG TERM EXTENSION so that he may retire as a New York Jet Do it
I guess Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith and Dan Marino all stunk while Doug Williams and Mark Rypien were great NFL superstars that should have been rewarded with long term deals
True Bills fans just agonize over the Ingram play. That's what we remember. A missed FG... that shit happens, and we all knew he was a terrible kicker anyway, but there is no excuse for that 3rd down play. Unbelievable!
Thanks for the research. So what you're saying is if Tanny is serious about winning the SB, he should follow history. Makes sense. But what history is lacking is Revis playing CB and Rex Ryan with a vision for a better way to do it. When Welsh invented the WCO, I'm sure someone made a chart like yours to prove how the WCO could never win, because history didn't support it. Or when the Browns threw the first pass in NFL history, someone said it will never work because history shows only running the ball wins SBs. Maybe the Jets, led by Rex Ryan, are on the verge of re-inventing football and writing a new chapter on how to win with Revis at CB (and WFH at RT). Maybe, just maybe we're writing our own history.
And maybe pigs can fly. Seriously, trying to control today's offenses by having a great last line of defense is self-defeating. Some teams beat you before that last line ever gets tested. You need to be strong up front first and then a strong back end after, which is optional. The Raiders got away with 2 great CB's because there was no salary cap and no free agency. Al Davis could spend whatever he wanted and nobody could escape him of their own free will so why not have the best possible at all positions?
I think this is more likely. Its been proven over and over that having an elite CB doesnt effect the game as much as having an elite safety, LB, DLman, QB, RB ect because he can only really affect one player... If Revis held out again, I would send him to another team if given a great deal. He’s not invaluable to this team’s goal in winning a SB.
Exactly. And a great CB is worth less than a great WR because the value of the WR is always there but the value of the CB is only fully expressed if there's a great WR opposite him in a given game. The difference between a good CB and Darrelle Revis only matters a few times a year.
Br4d and junc are both correct. Let's look at it another way. Pre-Spygate - Pats fans brag about winning Super Bowls. Post-Spygate - Pats fans brag about losing Super Bowls.
And what about the notion of using the elite back end to bring a bunch of exotic looks up front to pressure offenses into mistakes? It's not like the Jets or Rex are saying " Let's let Revis & Cro cover outside..shut down there # 1 & # 2 passing options & see what happens". Instead..the Jets are taking advantage of the back end by locking them in single coverage & attacking the line of scrimmage w/ Rex's blitz looks. In football history, when has a dominant CB duo ever been combined w/ a plus attacking blitz scheme? Well the closest you can likely get is the 70's Steelers w/ the steel curtain & Mel Blount.I'd say that worked out pretty well. Revis/Cro shutting down the outside doesn't win or lose games..but it allows the scheme flexibility to create havoc up front that DOES win games.
Pay the best Defensive player in the NFL LET HIM RETIRE AS A NYJ And then head to Canton Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2
