Teams have plans for the playoffs every year in the NFL. But let's put things in perspective. The Edwards trade was brilliant. They got a a top end WR in his prime and now DO NOT need to use a high draft pick on a WR where the success rate is about 50% and it takes 3 years for WRs to contribute. The Jets are set at WR (assuming they sign Edwards) for a few years now. The Jets need a RT who can pass block, some defensive linemen who can rush the passer and for Sanchez to grow up. That is all that is keeping this team from being a playoff team at this point. I think they can fill those few spots. The personnel is as good as it has been in a while. Today was a fluke loss because of two horrible special teams plays. The offense and defense both played great.
Mike Tannenbaum went out and got a player that he knew would improve his team. Sanchez needed more weapons, so Tannenbaum did his job and made a nice trade. I loved this move and I am big on the draft - 2010 could be the best draft in over a decade, but Braylon Edwards is a better option than any player we'd get in the 3rd or 5th. Our front office will wheel and deal and get a couple more picks in 2010. I didn't say they couldn't, but this Jets team isn't very good - I don't know why people thought they would be. It's a mediocre-at-best team that can and will steadily improve. Ben Roethlisberger is a perfect example. As a rookie, he was on a very, very good team. His stats were god awful, but they still managed to win because they were a playoff caliber team with an experienced coach. ...and about the personnel improving - I agree that Scott and Leonhard are upgrades over Elam and Barton, but Douglas is basically the same player as Kenyon Coleman.
New coaches, if any good, will either achieve success right away (I'm defining success in this case as a better W-L-T record than the previous season) or take a step back the first year in an effort to rebuild the team so that it can hopefully achieve great success in years 2 and beyond. Jimmy Johnson did this in Dallas. The team took its lumps and had the Walsh-Aikman QB battle. That was a pretty young team. The Jets aren't built that way. They mostly have older players or guys in their prime at key positions. The team can't be losing the sorts of games they lost to Buffalo and Miami. I did not want Rex Ryan as the head coach. I don't think he's coached well. He's okay, he's alright, he should get better, but he's made glaring mistakes and his coaching has really damaged the team at times. I don't have the time or care for too much of this, so you can have the last word and show me to be an utter buffoon if you wish. I suppose I might reply later or something. It's annoying to even discuss the team anymore. Just watching the games and moving on to other endeavors seems a better option for me.
I didn't say anything about them performing poorly. I'm just looking at the big picture... The Jets' defensive line is very, very old and it has little to no depth. We're set at inside linebacker with Harris and Scott. Outside linebacker is a hole - Pace is a damn good player, but Gholston and Thomas are garbage. There's also no depth at this position either. Darrelle Revis is the best corner in the game, but there's hole on the other side. I'm a big fan of Dwight Lowery and I hope he continues to develop. Sheppard will more than likely get cut and then re-sign. Drew Coleman is terrible. Kris Jenkins is probably the best nose tackle in the game, but he's injury prone and he's getting older. We have to think about finding another nose. Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum have to start building up this defense through the draft.
bottom line every loss for every team your team finds a way to lose it whether its your offense defense or ST. So acting like our team is the only one who finds ways to lose is just dumb.
I agree with everything except that Bryan Thomas is garbage. IMO he's a solid player. Not elite, but he's very solid and does his job.
BOLD: I was just trying to voice my opinion, man...wasn't trying to make you look stupid, so don't try to act like I was attacking you...like you usually try to do in any type of debate. It's my opinion and I don't give a shit if you disagree...you should feel the same way. You don't get what I'm saying. The Jets are sort of in between - good and bad. Ryan is rebuilding and if you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you. Our offense is very young except for Alan Faneca, Tony Richardson, Damien Woody, and Thomas Jones. The FO and coaching staff is building this offense around Mark Sanchez - that's why they went out and got Braylon Edwards. It had nothing to do with winning now...Tannenbaum had an opportunity to trade for a proven #1 wideout and did it. Rex Ryan knew he had most of the players needed to have success on defense. I guarantee he makes a few more upgrades in the off-season. The defense has been awesome so far this season, but there's still work to be done.
I just hate the fact that we passed on Ed Reed for that clown. Also, he's not worth what we're paying him. He's a serviceable linebacker, but Ryan needs to find a better player.
LOL!!! I didn't even remotely feel that you were attacking me. I guess I should have put a smilie next to that sentence in the previous post. Jeez.
I had hung around for a few more minutes. I was working on an addendum to a previous post and ultimately didn't go through with it. It would work as a response here, though. I was going to write that the Jets are a hamster team. Figuratively, they are going to run around in a wheel and get nowhere the next few seasons. You would agree with that at least with this 2009 outfit because you wrote, "The Jets are sort of in between - good and bad." I'm not sure this is going to change in 2010. I didn't like the Jets trading draft picks for Edwards. You cannot build through the draft when you consistently trade away draft picks. Br4dw4y5ucks bitches about this all the time. He didn't even like the trade to get Revis. I don't quite go that far. As for moves this offseason, with the CBA problems, don't expect to see as much movement in free agency as we've seen the past decade. Improving the personnel is not going to be easy.
It's ironic, 2 picks after Reed the Eagles drafted Lito Sheppard. Reed, Sheppard or Rumph were the 3 targets the Jets were sure to draft...one Hall of Fame player, one decent player and a bust. I believe, John Abe was sick (Flu) for the playoff game against Oakland in Jan, no pass rush, the Jets believe they need another pass rush specialist. Big mistake drafting Thomas. Sounds like another similar scenario to the Jets drafting Nugent...because of Brien's failed kicks in Pittsburg. Herm's conservative playcalling cost us a chance to the AFC champ game.
That's the most accurate statement yet. No matter how good the Cubs and Jets are, they are the Barney Fife of sports, always there to shoot themselves in the foot.
what if braylon edwards doesnt resign? maybe they had a handshake deal or something before the trade but were you ready to trade away future anything for a guy who would be gone at the end of the season? did the fast start get the FO a little antsy? is it the lack of psl sales and the thoughts of big plays in the passing game? what exactly was the reason for adding him with absolutely no certainty that he will be here next year?
I would be shocked if Edwards didn't resign. I like that the Jets brought him aboard. I just don't like the fact they gave away more picks. It would have been really good if they acquired Edwards for Stuckey, Trusnik, and one other veteran. Tall order, of course, but it maybe could have been done because Edwards has some on-field and off-field issues.
