I dont care about the mitchell report at this point. i have a pretty good understanding of the guys who were scumbags. Goodell had the opportunity to make the pats accountable without releasing the tapes, the nfl owners had the opportunity to make goodell without releasing the tapes. as a matter of fact he should have been in trouble simply for destroying the tapes. me seeing them has nothing to do with it. being a public figure doesnt make it ok for folks to put up medical records on their twitter. schefter didnt do anything illegal, he may be liable for invasion of privacy, i hope the court finds him liable. but no he didnt do anything illegal but he did do something that makes him a complete piece of shit scumbag. anyone who knows anything wasnt in teh least bit surprised when the ray rice video came out. only people who live the charmed life were outraged. beating a woman in an elevator and someone putting your medical records on twitter are very different things. did you know you are member 19848
i am almost interested to hear who you are going back and forth with. i have a couple people blocked at this point. i am going to guess its evi or whatever his name is.
Your responses are completely and diametrically opposed to each other. And the rest of them don't make a whole lotta sense. I can't even. _
Medical records are protected as between the medical professionals and the individual. If a doctor wads up someone's test results into a ball of paper and throws it out the window at my feet, it ceases to be protected in my possession. I have no duty to protect that information. The issue being discussed was whether, if "stolen" lol someone in possession of said "stolen goods" lol had committed a crime. And also whether the public would want to see or had the right to see what was "stolen" lol. We're talking about confidentiality and who has the duty to keep something confidential, whether it's federally protected or contractually protected or otherwise. The baseball players were granted complete confidentiality when they peed in cups for the Mitchell Report. It would be illegal if MLB released those results. But if they were stolen and mailed to me, I have no duty of confidentiality to the players. Just because one set of information is federally protected does not mean outside the boundaries of the parties subject to confidentiality it remains confidential. _
Admittedly, I didn't follow all details of your conversation. I do agree with above. I don't think Shafty broke any laws by releasing the pic, but he was that devil behind the scenes that tempted the right people. His (and TMZs, and NE's etc) actions where the reason why records were taken. To make a somewhat poor comparison, if you pay me to kill someone, I'm the murderer, but you'd be convicted on conspiracy to commit. I don't think there is similar law for med records, but if there were, Shefty would be convicted on conspiracy to commit violation of med records law. I don't think what he did is illegal, but it's certainly immoral. We as a whole are used to this. "People have the right to know" and such BS. It's common and accepted, but immoral nonetheless.
The way I'd like to see situations like this applied to the press is "is this news for the public" or is it simply self-serving for the reporters benefit. As you mentioned, the public already knew it happened; it didn't serve any purpose to bringing news to the public, so is the freedom of the press right greater than the right to privacy for medical records? This had nothing to do with news for the public and had everything to do with Schefter's personal gain. I'd like to see it regarded as such.
What about whomever released the Ray Rice tapes? They were the subject of a criminal investigation and someone in that police station released them. We all knew what happened, why did we need to see them? He was publicly excoriated, possibly had his criminal case impacted and kept him out of football. I'm not defending Schefter, he's a douche but "investigative reporters" have been digging up dirt for years. And while we all KIND of knew what happened, that piece of paper chrystalized it for us. I want to see it all. Why not? _
Morality whilst delving into the private lives of public people died a LONG time ago. No putting that toothpaste back in the tube. _
Actually not schooled. HIPPA is between medical/insurance professionals and the individual. Not third parties. Try to keep up. _
you are right about HIPPA regs, but if he stole the records its against the law no matter what. I'm assuming he didnt steal them but rather being the shithead weasel that he is came across them in another matter. That's fine from a legal standpoint but he's still a scumbag because there is a line to be crossed and he crossed it. Fuck Schefter last thing I'll say is that this is civil suit not a legal case so HIPPA stuff, Schefter being in the clear, etc... might not matter anyway if the Judge doesnt like what he sees from Schefter
There is nothing private about the Ray Rice tapes so I don't think the two are comparable. Schefter knew of the privacy of the records and believed the freedom of the press trumped the privacy rights of the individual. I'd like to see the criteria for such being whether this was news for the benefit of the public that the press was providing or simply to further the reporters individual gain.
Of course if he stole them it's an entirely different matter. I think the anger here is because it was that smug douche Schefter. If it were another reporter we liked (i) there would be as much feigned out rage and (ii) he might not have done it. _
Who makes that determination? How do you make such a determination? He got a hot story with a picture of the records and ran with it. _
not me I think its slimy bullshit no matter who did it. tweeting hospital records? what have we come to
Ok how about this scenario. Tom Brady checks himself into the Emergency Room with lower abdominal pain. Don't you want to see the x-rays and medical report showing a rodent lodged in his lower colon? _
How about medical records of athletes that show to a certitude that they are juicing or on HGH? I want to see those records, be it an athlete on my team or on an opponent. _
The courts would decide whether personal/private medical records would be protected. He didn't simply discuss the medical report, he revealed the actual records. Hell, sone companies have argued copyright violations when private documents have been released. I'd love to see them fuck with Schefter from that angle too.
