I agree that personality is everything at the QB position (or at least the next most important after talent), but you don't know that the Browns and Giants want no part of Rosen. Rumors aren't facts. Even if that is the case, that doesn't mean that the problem is with Rosen. Some people have personality conflicts with others in spite of their best efforts, or have problems with certain personalities. It doesn't mean that the other person is wrong or bad. Some people are oil, and some are water, and oil and water don't mix. There are a lot of reasons why we should want Rosen.
Geno had a good personality? He rubbed coaches and players the wrong way, and got his jaw broke. Let's not repeat that mistake. Thinking like a winner means a tireless work ethic and commitment to the game, minimizing all distractions, and making everything about winning and the team. Rosen has not showed that. I agree regarding Rosen's health flags.. just too much overall risk in that pick.
True there are a lot of reasons to want Rosen. But there are also a lot of reasons not to want Rosen. When using a high first plus three seconds, I'm not comfortable with questions regarding personality, health, commitment and work ethic. Especially at QB. It doesn't mean he can't or won't succeed, but I cannot get past those red flags with such a valuable pick. Just not my cup of tea..
That's fair. Question...did you watch that video of the interview with Rich Eisen? How about the interview in ESPN Magazine? If not, I recommend that you do. I think that would ease a lot of your concerns regarding Rosen's personality, commitment and work ethic. Of course those things don't mean that all concerns can just be dismissed, but he definitely seems sincere to me, and I think they will help ease your concerns regarding him. I still have concerns regarding his health and size, but if we wind up drafting him, I will be very excited. He will be the most talented QB we've had in a long, long time. I think that Mayfield and he have the perfect attitudes for the Jets and for playing in Northern NJ/NYC. There are no questions about his accuracy, decision making, or ability to play QB. I don't think there should be any questions about his work ethic, either. Players don't play at the high level he does without hard work.
DeMario Davis was 29. That's not a good age to commit resources to a player unless the guy is a star. Even then it's often iffy. The guy they got wasn't as accomplished as Davis was at 28 in his career year but he's got Davis at 26 beat.
To be honest, for many years I have been following UCLA and USC closely. More so USC I'll admit. Rosen impresses me greatly on the field, much more than Darnold. I have not seen anything close to either of these guys coming out of these schools since forever. Rosen football smarts are off the charts, and not much was ever said about work ethic, either good or bad. I heard numerous times that he was extremely inquisitive as to why this or that and about play calling , why, why, why type of approach. Mora by the way was a difficult coach to deal with and not very approachable from what I hear. I sincerely hope the brass does due diligence about the items you are concerned about. Work ethic is most important, but I never heard that was and issue.
Mora's truthful comment: "If you can hold his concentration level and focus only on football for a few years, he will set the world on fire." That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement of work ethic and commitment to the game. Sounds more like a talented guy who gets caught up in distractions, and maybe doesn't put football #1. and I don't see the why, why why stuff as being a good thing. sounds more like a someone who doesn't take criticism or coaching well. I agree these are things the Jets need to be absolutely sure about before drafting. Gotta hope they are turning every stone to find out for themselves.
An interesting young man, why would anyone not chose him as a player if he has the physical talent? I, for one, would enjoy watching him play and hearing his thoughts on the game and other topics. Hope he lands with the Jets.
I've had my differences with the Jets as a fan but I've never had thoughts about finding another team. I've always laughed at people who said they were done with their team because they moved cities or some other dumb stuff. But if Rosen is there at #3 and Woody sends out a memo not to take him because of his anti Trump views, that would be grounds for me to leave the Jets until Woody sold them. I think it would have an affect on the fan base like nothing before. Even if Rosen doesn't have the greatest of career the damage would be done
His teammates were all on Twitter recently basically saying this wasn't true. I don't know what incentive they would have to do this if it wasn't genuine.
Bad teams talk themselves out of good players all the time. I didn’t realize Dorsey’s and Gettlemen’s preferences reflected absolute truths. Not to mention there has been no released statement by either of those guys that he is not on their board; that’s just conjecture derived from third party reports championing Darnold or Allen as their top choices.
I’ve yet to read or hear anything from any of his teammates that that is true. There is no reason for you to champion that opinion unless you want it to be true not because it is.
QBs rarely have clean cut compromising type personalities.They are more likely to be strong willed driven & arrogant. I’ll agree that Rosen is not for everyone.He could bash heads w certain head coaches & his manner might rub some small markets the wrong way. But I think he fits the Jets & would give the offense an attitude adjustment that it sorely needs.
