Josh Gordon Wants Back

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  1. 88toon

    88toon Well-Known Member

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    Tanny was an idiot? Were you saying he was an idiot when 2 years in a row you were watching the jets a game away from being in a Super Bowl for the 1st time in 50 years? And how do you know Douglas will "Far Surpass" what was done by Tanny? if you know that, you are going to make a hell of alot of money betting the house on Super Bowl futures.......

    I get everyone wanting to credit Douglas for building through the draft the right way. I am in total agreement with that. But to be blaming Tanny a decade later for why this team has been out of the playoffs since is laughable. This is not a Knicks situation where he traded away years of future first round picks.
     
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  2. 88toon

    88toon Well-Known Member

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    This. It's laughable......
     
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    88toon Well-Known Member

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    I am not advocating for Douglas should trade anything. I am refuting this whole notion that Tanny was such a big failure. Two completely different topics.
     
  4. NCJetsfan

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    IMO it's not absurd. Could the roster have been fixed by now? Yes, undoubtedly, but imo it's easier to maintain a roster and plug a few holes as players retire or you seek to upgrade when you start out with a solid roster, but much harder when there is no depth and little talent. That can cause reaches and swinging for the fences, and every miss magnifies the problem.
     
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    Yes, he was imo. I never liked Tanny and never thought he was qualified to be the GM. He was an attorney and bean counter. He had zero experience in scouting and personnel.

    As I said to BrowningNagle, Idzik and/or Mac could have fixed or mostly fixed the roster by now, but it would have been a lot easier if they started out with a decent roster. It's a pretty daunting task when one has to rebuild the roster from scratch. That leaves little room for error. Between Tanny's and Rex's moves, the cupboard was pretty bare. There were few quality starters and little or no depth. No GM is going to hit on every pick in every draft. Even with 56 draft picks, and if Mac had hit on 2/3 of them, this team would still have holes and questionable depth. Whereas if he had started out with 10-15 usable young players, the team could have been pretty much rebuilt.
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    If they were all going to keep their noses clean and bans not counting if they are due a ban, then it would have to be Antonio Brown, by far the most talented one there and he won't be that rusty either.

    He is an utter cock though and between him and Gordon, you are wasting your time hoping.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

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    He's worse. He's a diva and crazy as bat shit. I'd rather count on a full-blown alcoholic or cokehead than him.
     
  8. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    That is why I used the outlier of if they kept their noses clean, let's face it they both can't keep it clean because they are lunatics.
     
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    Well, he was a failure really. He swung for the fence and, ultimately, struck out. Yes it was an enjoyable ride for a season or two, but he went all in and lost. And that was a reasonable thing to do because he got the team in a position to swing for the fences so he shouldn't be totally vilified. He had to go when he did. He deserves a little of the blame for getting the Jets in the position they are now because he caused the rot that set in, but only a little because two GMs have had the opportunity and resources to fix it and failed utterly to do so.
     
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  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    And... he's back.
     
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    Steve Howe and Josh Gordon, intergenerational brothers joined at the hip.
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Terry Bradway thought that he could make a technically perfect team by trading up for the missing piece and then signing free agents to fill the holes that created over time. The problem was that he didn't have a good grasp of the NFL aging process and so his offensive lines and LB cores fell apart on him as he was trying to do all the spackling and patching.

    Mike Tannenbaum went a step further and virtually abandoned the draft except for splashy trade ups. He survived as long as he did because his first draft had two ten-year OL in it. That allowed him to patch in the guys about to decline repeatedly until cap problems and lack of picks scuttled his plan.

    Both of the guys above were handed a bunch of talent by Parcells, particularly the 4 1st round pick 2000 draft and the double pick 2006 draft that one of the 2000 picks turned into. Bradway managed to get 3 productive seasons in 4 years before things totally fell apart on him. Tannenbaum then got 3 productive seasons in 5 years before things totally fell apart. The combined run led directly to the last decade in the wilderness. Contrary to popular belief you cannot turn a team around in just a few years unless you get very lucky and the Jets are not that lucky.
     
  13. Jets69

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    Sign this beast!
     
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    Maybe wait till we get back from Colorado, know what I’m saying?
     
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    I hope he remembers not to bring his crack pipe to the practise field this time.
     
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    This time, the comeback is real.
     
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  18. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    part 910?
     
  19. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    This should be a new thread
     
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    It's like a horror movie with seemingly endless sequels..... they keep making more, yet we already know the plot and how it ends... only the "special effects" become less "special"
     
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