Well worked out , the hotel quarantine in 2020 pre vaccines was a disaster . Security guards at the quarantine hotels were either not trained properly or ignored training and went home infected many of them had partners worked in aged care homes . They worked in multi homes and covid went thru these homes killing 800 old people . The first lockdown targeted areas of melbourne and was useless .until all of melb were locked down.Eventually numbers went down because no one moved. Also police replaced security guards . The private security were from a firm that had political connections . Enough said . We had other smaller lockdowns before case and death numbers went up . When delta came in via an air crew who were picked up by an unvaccinated driver in sydney . Thats when the shite started . The driver went to cafe i eastern suburbs of sydney and it spread and also a party in western suburbs . That party had ppl from melbourne and they came back to melbourne and it spread here.eventually contract tracing did its business . But a removalist who was positive came down from sydney on the way to south australia. Sydney was rampant but nsw government locked down an area of sydney ( didnt work here the year before) in stead of making tough decision locking all of sydney . The removalist infected a person at the drop off in melbourne. He went to a footy match and bang infected others around including school teacher. Some of those infected went to a rugby match days later . It took a week for ppl to test positive and we went down to zero but a day later 6 , 100 , 300etc . We went into lockdown for 4 months . As I posted before vaccines due to victoria went to nsw political reasons . Victoria was months behind in vaccinations . Eventually we opened up in november and kids had 5 weeks of school before summer . Then like rest of world omicron came and we went backwards see the link i posted to see the mess. Due to another federal government fup , rapid personal tests were late coming and then like toilet paper were sold out . Not enough were ordered too. Fortunately hospital cases are way down , still deaths thou . Just announced to day , no capacity at the footy in a month and WA which has been like a fortress for visitors is opening 3rd of march . WA has avoided the eastern states disaster till omicron snuck in
What's really amazing about what NZ did is that you've had 53 deaths in a largely non-immunized population until recently. I have family north and south there and the lockdowns were like the gospel - a reason that NZ was so lightly touched by the virus.
Undoubtedly. In the UK I don't think there is any doubt of the effectiveness of lockdowns, albeit at the cost of other problems which the study alludes to. We've had 2 pretty strict national lockdowns and a number of smaller regional ones. The evidence is pretty undeniable: 7-10 days after lockdown begins infection numbers plateau and then begin to drop as quickly as they grew. Deaths follow a similar trajectory but 14-21 days after lockdown begins. While lockdown is in force infections continue falling to what you can probably call a baseline level. This is true both pre and post vaccines and there really is minimal difference in the patterns you see - the numbers post vaccine are significantly reduced however. That's not to suggest the UK got things right. They clearly got some things very wrong.
My guess is that the study is going to fail the peer review process badly and be discarded. The fact that it has become so widely disseminated prior to peer review makes a strong case for not making the preprint servers available to the general public. It only takes one strongly motivated idiot or malicious actor to turn a bad paper into a major controversy. BTW the classic case of this effect is the idiot who linked autism and vaccinations in the early 90's. His paper got blown out of the water by peer review but that didn't stop 100 million people from ruining their healthcare in the intervening 3 decades.
It worked about pretty good so far (considering) at my house. None of us contracted that horrible disease, we both got to work from home and spend more time with the family, covid itself was like a good IQ test so we got to see who all the idiots were. I got no complaints personally, although I feel for those who lost family members to this disease despite their precautions
Last time the proof was from a was finance expert and founding member of the Tea Party, so surprisingly this is an improvement
Cowards way of what? Im pretty sure both Trump and the republicans, and the democrats all installed lockdowns at the same time. Is it really Political if both sides were doing the same thing, just not to the same degree.....
If the Jets ever make the Super Bowl, we all better get seats in the same row, so at least we can hopefully watch them win a Super Bowl after a decade of arguing on a messageboard........
