I don't think fair catches count against your average, they shouldn't. As long as you catch the ball and don't let it bounce another 15-20 yards, which it does on average, a fair catch is ok.
I guarantee you they are concerned w/ their RBs being fresh for january and if not all they need to do is look back to last year whena fresh greene almost acrried us to the SB. You think if he earned the opportunity he wouldn't be playing? We saw him do nothing in TC and nothing in preseason, that's what we have to go on. We aren't at practice every day and if he was impressig the coaches he'd be on the field on offense. great hands are #1, we got spoiled w/ Moss who was one of the best PRs ever but Leonhard always catches the ball and always has a decent return. he may not hit the HR but he is consistently good.
I'm sure he has shown some progress, he was as bad as one could possibly be in TC but if he showed real progress you don't think he'd be getting some touches? this isn't that complicated. It's very sad that we have so many fans that buy everything the Jets sell us- did you know that good seats are running out at the new Stadium? You better hurry before they sell out!:rofl:
Do I have to actually provide the definition of the word 'significant' to you? McKnight has fallen victim to the numbers game in a season where we lost our starting NT, had a WR suspended for 4 games and had their star defensive players hamstrung. They used the extra roster spots to compensate for those and other holes to stay competitive, because when you have LT and Shonn Greene, staying competitive is much more important than proving out your depth players. Again, you twist words to support your flimsy argument. Let's not minimize the term 'role-player' into your oversimplified 'contributor'. Eric Smith is a valuable role player in the pass rush, although his coverage ability can be described as below average. I'd take him for a 4th rounder, even though he is limited to playing support roles. But we took him for a 3rd, and for some reason I don't see you harping on it as much as McKnight. Or at all, really. Wallace Wright was a terrible receiver, but certainly worthy of a 3rd round pick. I think you even threw a tantrum when we let him go. Both made impact plays, but weren't weren't or aren't major contributors. junc, I love this part of your post. It's like you're trying to be dramatic. Instead of being the typical junc-style stoic loner defending the 'truth' at the top of the hill, you're including yourself in some sort of support group designed to help you cope with the plague of incomprehension surrounding you. And again with the puke stuff, junc. It doesn't become you. Repetitive and unimaginative. It would be like if someone followed you around and reminded you how much it pissed you off that twombles beat you in the BS Bowl. junc, for heaven's sake, are you even reading my posts? I'm not rooting harder for him because he didn't take his job serious enough. I'm rooting harder for him because you suck.
LT is on pace for 241 carries, his 2nd lowest carry total of his career and the lowest in a season in which he wasn't injured. He'll be fine. There's also a chance that he'll be able to rest in Week 17. Not a great chance with the division tied at this point, but a chance. Greene's on pace for 204 carries. He had more attempts than that in his final season at Iowa by over 100 carries. I'd love to see McKnight get some carries, but this isn't last year when we ran TJ 331 times and watched him fall apart in the playoffs.
why would he get touches when LT and Greene are playing well ahead of him? IF Slauson was showing signs of improvement last season....should they have sat Faneca for a few snaps? c'mon junc. McKnight will get his shot....he's got to earn his way by playing well on special teams...which he's starting to do.
Pardon those of us that have watched our GM take what was a mediocre roster four years ago and turn it into a championship contender for trusting his decision making over yours. He did such a good job building the roster that he now has people questioning his moves because the 54th man from the team that he built can be a productive starter elsewhere. Besides that the Jets haven't had to sell me on anything regarding McKnight. We knew he had some issues when he got drafted because he fell to the fourth round when he was a second round talent at worst. We saw some of those issues early and now we have seen that he worked hard enough the last few months to step into a position of need and do a good job. You can take that opportunity to bitch about him not playing on offense yet. I'll take that as a sign that if LT or Greene do get hurt that he will be able to step in and do a good job because he has shown that ability to us.
You can make all the excuses you want, the bottom line is if McKnight was ready he'd be on the field. I am not twisting anything, you are making it sound like it's a shock to see a 3rd rd or below player be a big time player. Eric Smith has STARTED for us, Eric Smith wasn't replacing a very successful player for us. the expectations were not as high. Wallace Wright was worthy of a 3rd rd pick? I am glad you are not running our drafts. wright was an excellent STer but he was UNDRAFTED for a reason. I was annoyed we lost Wright, I wouldn't say I threw a tantrum. Wow! how sad is it that you remember who beat me in the BS Bowl as I don't even remember. This is what i am talking about w/ you guys. You are so desperate to try to get things past me and you need my approval for some reason. I know, you are rooting harder for him b/c he annoyed fans like me for not taking his job seriosuly. Just connect the dots.
Are you really comparing an OL w/ a RB? Seriously? He's done a great job but there was plenty of talnet on the roster that he inherited. I trust the FO too but I have a brain and can think for myself, i don't think every move they make is the right move. It's ok to admit they make mistakes. if you think McKnight is stepping in and doing a good job if LT or Greene got hurt you are drunk on the kool aid.
where am i comparing an OL player to a HB? I was comparing a hypothetical situation involving the Guard depth chart...to the reason why McKnight doesn't need to play on offense at this point in time. For a guy who professes to know all......your reading comprehension is severely lacking.
Easy for you to say that when he won't be seeing the field because of those two guys. I hope that we never have to revisit this later in the year to see who was right but you telling me what he would or would not do based on nothing besides your own annoyance at him is laughable.
Eric Smith was drafted higher than both Washington and Brad Smith and hasn't produced on the field to the level of either of them, and that's why I brought up the comparison, which you failed to comprehend. Or pretend to fail to comprehend. With you it really doesn't matter, it seems. Wallace Wright, while he was with the Jets, was arguably the best gunner in the NFL. He was also a hell of a blocker and personal protector. You bet your ass I'd give up a 3rd if my team was a contender, and I didn't have Brad Smith on the team. Sorry, junc, it's too late to play lone gunslinger, you've already included yourself into a support group to help you cope with the bad people. There's no going back to pretending that something that is brought up with regulatiry on this board - 'I must respond' - would be something that someone would have to make much effort to remember. And now you've made yourself just one of the crowd. How the 'mighty' have fallen. Actually, I am rooting for him because you suck.
Your example was if Slauson was showing something last year why didn't they give him some snaps in place of Faneca. That's a pretty silly example, right? Do teams rotate Guards in? do they rotate Rbs in? Don't try to throw this on me b/c you posted an asinine example. If he has shown enough to think he could play if one of those guys went down he'd be getting touches right now.
Well to be fair teams almost never substitute offensive linemen. Linemen either start and play the whole game or they don't play a down. There are a handful of exceptions (someone is injured, someone is coming back from an injury, or someone is spectacularly bad so they get benched) but it's rare in the extreme to sub in a young guy. It's much, much easier to sub in a running back/return guy if you want to.
You sound like a broken record. Three guys get carries in this offense every game. LT, Greene and Brad Smith. I'm not taking the ball out of any of their hands just to prove he was worth a 4th rounder this year. Doesn't look the Jets are overly concerned about proving his worth right away either. How many teams have 4 guys sharing carries?
You aren't going to get the hihgleet reel plays from your average safety that you will from a dynamic playmaker like leon and a return man like Brad Smith. Eric Smith has been a starting player for us, something Brad has never been. If you'd give up a 3rd rd pick for wallace Wright I don't know what to say. I find it funny you say that then you make fun of me for being annoyed we lost him. It's ok to admit you are a big fan, you know who I lost to in the BS Bowl from 4 years ago. I appreciate it, i take it as a compliment.
In front of McKnight are LT and Greene, two very good RB's. Then you also have Brad Smith who has to get touches. I think McKnight's lack of carries is a numbers game that he'd be a victim to regardless of how he's been progressing.
The seminole has not been very effective so why wouldn't we give some carries to Joe if he was ready? I guarantee you if he was he'd be getting some touches every single game but he's not ready.
