Joe McKnight appears as if he's finally ready to contribute.

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  1. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Of course they wouldn't make him available knowing the Pats would pick him up and he would be productive. That's not something they could really take into consideration when they originally made the move. They were worrying about what their team needed not what would happen if Woodhead got signed by the Pats. Hindsight is always 20-20. It sucks that it has to be a guy that used to be on our team but do you really think that Danny Woodhead was the only guy available that the Pats could plug in with Brady and have success with? The Pats are 9-2 with or without Woodhead and the Jets are 9-2 with or without Woodhead. It's really not something that is worth all this attention.
     
  2. nyjetsrule

    nyjetsrule Active Member

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    0, in Chrebet's first two years in the league he set an NFL record for most receptions in that span of time. That was broken by Anquan Boldin a few years back.
     
  3. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

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    Chrebet joined one of the worst teams in recent memory, the 1995 Jets, who trained at his college. That's the only scenario he even gets a chance to try out for the NFL. Woodhead joined a team loaded with talent at his position, both last year and this year. Point being, some guys just need a chance to get on the field and prove they can play regardless of their size and/or color.

    I'm not trashing McKnight, by the way, but if you think a guy is going to be a great or even good RB, why would you bother looking into whether he can play any other position? You do that when a guy is a great athlete but not grasping the postion he's trying to play. Either that or he's so good at one postion, like Deion or Roy Green if you want to go way back, that they use him both ways because he's that good. I'd be happy if McKnight turns into a good RB or CB, as long as he does it here.
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Are you honestly taking exception to a 4th round rookie playing a different position to help the team get ready for an upcoming opponent? You really just want to hate the guy, it's pretty obvious, no matter how much you deny it.

    He's obviously a running back. Maybe he should send you an apology for using his athleticism to help the team prepare for an opponent.
     
  5. tcrock

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    i know it's a numbers game and all, but they should have found a way to keep Woodhead on the roster.......it's been obvious the last 2 pre seasons the kid could play. That being said, I'm not giving up at all on McKnight yet......hopefully he'll pan out in the future. I'm sure it's in this thread somewhere, but didn't they let Woodhead go to keep Clowney on the roster?
     
  6. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Woodhead has had more chances to get on the field with the Jets than McKnight. How do you praise one guy for the same thing you're shitting on another for?
     
  7. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    No one is trashing Woodhead either but I figured since we were dealing with extremes I would play along.

    I think your just plain wrong about the reasoning behind him playing at DB on the scout team. He is a great athlete and he wasn't getting playing time with the offense because he hadn't been active so why not stick him in at DB if he is athletic enough to do it? I still don't see how him working in practice and doing whatever is asked of him to help the team is a bad thing.
     
  8. nyjunc

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    Woodhead earned his PT in the eyes of the coaches, mcKnight has not.
     
  9. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Woodhead was cut, McKnight was not. Even after "showing what he could do".
     
  10. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    And then those same coaches decided to cut him. So whats the point?
     
  11. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Yeah, thought so.
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I'm not hear to back woodhead but we all know why they chose McKnight over woodhead. They would have had egg on their faces ahd they cut their 4th rd pick.
     
  13. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Especially if the Pats picked him up and he was doing what Woodhead is. I think they thought there was more of a risk in someone grabbing McKnight if they cut him too, but being a draft pick matters.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    McKnight has the higher upside, hopefully in the coming years he shows it on the field as a RB.
     
  15. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    The entire McKnight/Woodhead issue can be summed up with this post.
     
  16. Italian Seafood

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    I have no problem with him playing scout team DB, my point is they were also talking about him possibly taking up the position. Again, great if he can contribute but probably not what they're looking for from a 4th round pick at RB when you trade Leon Washington to make room.

    That's the thing, if McKnight was ready to play, with his physical ability he'd be playing here. Woodhead doesn't have that but he showed in pre-season, this year and last, that he's ready to play in the NFL. Maybe someone would have picked up McKnight, but it's doubtful he'd be doing what Woodhead is doing for New England this year.

    Agreed.
     
  17. gustoonarmy

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    I seem to remember in Hard knocks that Rex said that they were finding it hard NOT to keep Woodhead on the team. If there were 54 spots, Woodhead would still be a Jet
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

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    They never talked about him changing his position. They said he could be used there in a jam.

    No one knows whether McKnight would be having success in NE if he and Woodchuck swapped. To say it's doubtful is nothing but negative speculation. I could just as easily say that McKnight would be doing better than Woodchuck for the Pats and that's why we didn't release him.
     
  19. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    ill say it again: woodhead would see the same amount of PT as mcknight if he was still on the jets, thats if he was active for any of the games.
     
  20. Italian Seafood

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    He made the original 53 man roster out of camp, then they shuffled a few guys around and he was cut. So yeah, he was close.

    Which is pretty much the same thing if he isn't playing RB, which he isn't.

    The Pats didn't use a pick on McKnight, so they'd have no motivation to keep him around if he can't help them right now.

    I'm basing my opinion on the fact that McKnight is physically superior but still not ready to play, therefore would be no more ready in New England than here. Woodhead's issue was/is his size--being able to get in a game, know what to do and hold onto the football were never in question. It was a matter of could he do it at this level, which is being answered now.
     

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