This is stunning because he comes from a team with a system designed to make life easy for QB's. Now, he's making Gase look good.
I put right move in parentheses because I agree. But NFL teams don't purge their rosters. They build them. That's where people think NFL rebuilds are some sort of long fruitful endeavor like when the Braves tanked their team for 4-5 years to build a long term winner. That doesn't work in the NFL because the players you eventually get are generally not a lot of decade long mainstays.
I didn't watch it but I'll take your word for it. I'm not liking a lot of what these coaches have been saying but then again we'd brush over it if we didn't have a putrid first three weeks so I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt to them to an extent. Saleh not hiring a real offensive coordinator is not a good look at all though.
I hear you but our roster needed a purge given the horrendous contracts handed our prior to Douglas. Because of that purge we now sit in a position with a ton of draft capital and a ton of money for free agency. We would not be in that position if the roster was not purged. All I'm saying is I don't think it is right to start bashing JD in the middle of his mark. Let him work his plan for three years before coming to a decision. There is a reason he signed a 6 year deal.
In NFL you got about a 3 year window. Why - because that's when your original draft picks that are performing well would need to be resigned, and a lot of CAP room is spent and you lose flexibility. Our rebuild started last year when JD traded Adams. That's why having 2-14 record didn't bother me. In fact that made for better draft picks during rebuild. In the second year however, you need to see some improvement. Looking at JDs draft choices and majority investments, that improvement should have come from the offense. Then next year focus more on defense. Yet now it is looking like we still have shit offense - namely porous OL and not shore handed WRs. We are averaging 6.7 ppg. Even Gase would probably laugh at that. This needs to change, otherwise we basically lost a year of a short rebuild window and have to focus on offense again next offseason.
Not only do we still need to draft offense but it's looking like we'll have to triple dip on OL. We need a guard and/or a tackle depending on how FA goes next year. Had JD nailed the OL already we'd be looking at WR's and TE's exclusively in the first round but we can't even do that given the state of the OL.
The shit part about this is it was just a stroke of bad luck. What JD did for the line was the absolute right approach. He drafted high teir guys and he signed free agents that know how to play at a high level in this league. I honestly think the issues we are witnessing is not the result of JDs poor choices but rather the offensive system they are running. I keep coming back to the one play where McGovern is literally blocking no one. That doesn't just happen with a guy like McGovern. Further, based on his shitty response via message to someone, he admitted that he was doing his job. McGovern is the play caller on the line, if that's the case, there is a deep problem in the scheme and confusion as to who they are each blocking. Again, I feel a lot of this falls at the feet of Lafleur.
Let's say he nails AVT and Becton, which is far from the case right now, but let's say he does. We realistically need three new offensive lineman next year. Which isn't totally unreasonable since teams have done it, but Douglas has already signed six or seven that haven't really worked (Moses, Fant, McGovern, Van Roten, Andrews, Alex Lewis, Kalil, etc.). What instills faith in us that he can fix those other three spots? You're whole offensive line shouldn't need to be first rounders. And first round guards need to be above average starters or else you pissed the capital away. So AVT needs to perform and it shouldn't take all too long. Zach Martin and Nelson dominated immediately.
But that is my point. I do not think the signings JD has made are bad players. I think this is more the scheme and the system we are running. JD has signed or drafted at least 11 linemen. Many of which were largely viewed, around the league, as high quality starters that had come off very good seasons with other teams. Again, it is not normal for guys to go completely untouched when rushing. Something is not adding up and our line does not know who to block. That is not normal. That is not players that lack the ability or skill to start in the NFL. That is proof that they are collectively lost, which leads me to believe this is a coaching issue.
I wouldn't call it bad luck, I'd call it failure on JD's part. He tried to fix the OL, no doubt, but he has failed at it so far. LaFleur isn't without blame but scheme really shouldn't be that impactful on the OL's ability to pass block. Players also have a responsibility to learn the new system, they aren't without fault if they aren't learning it. GVR shouldn't have been allowed within a 500 mile radius of our team after last season. Not replacing him during FA is on Douglas. If we hadn't traded up for AVT there's also a decent shot we would've gotten a guard or tackle in the 3rd round that would be better than the ones we currently have. We had too many holes at OL to trade up and doing so is part of the reason the OL rebuild has been set back a year. That's on JD.
I still have the same question, which is why I do not throw all the blame at JD: Why are guys going unblocked? Why, every game, is there 5+ rushers that go completely unblocked at Wilson? Again, this points to a coaching issue as the line has no idea who they are blocking. Again, take the example of McGovern. A fan messaged McGovern asking him why he was blocking no one. McGovern, who is the playcaller on the line, stated the following: "Slider R. I have the right A gap. I am doing my job..." Ok, so if this is true, which I believe it is considering McGovern calls the plays, that means that AVT has no idea who he is blocking while a rusher runs right next to him completely unguarded. That is not an issue with a players skillset or fundamentals. That is an issue with the play call and the responsibilities of each blocker. They do not know who they are blocking or what they are supposed to be doing. McGovern has played in this league for years. He just came off a great year in 2019 with Denver. Now I am supposed to believe he forgot how to play? This is a much deeper issue than we think.
I respect him for answering a tweet tbh but that 2019 season is like looking through the wrong end of a telescope, for whatever reason he has not shown much as a Jet, of course, Gase and probably getting a feeling we can start saying LaFleur soon enough
Missed assignments is as much a talent issue as physical ones. A player doesn't get a pass for that. I do not believe for one second the pass protection is too difficult. Everything else? Fine. Agreed. Pass protection is simple. Call out who the fuck you're blocking. It's that simple sometimes in a pinch.
But he has been tearing down for three years now - when does that stop so the buildup can begin? I think Saleh coming on board this year buys Douglas an extra year but if no significant improvement is seen through next season they're both on the skids. There may be some changes in the coaching staff (cough, cough, LaFleur, cough) even before this season is over but not even the Jets would blow out an entire staff in one season.
Definitely a fair take. When rushers are coming without being touched as often as they have been for us, that says scheme problem to me. Now, it's debatable whether the scheme is too difficult, isn't being taught well enough, or our players are just dumb and aren't learning it as quickly as they should be.
I don't agree with that. Again, makes absolutely no sense that our guys are completely talentless now and can't block anyone. I don't agree because that is not who AVT is and that definitely is not who McGovern is. In fact, it even goes deeper with the running backs and tight ends who are also not blocking people. So every player suddenly regressed in talent and can no longer block? It's a scheme issue and guys are not understanding the offense Lafleur is running. Explains the missed assignments, explains the lack of seperation from receivers, and it explains why three receivers are running the same route within a yard from one another.
I truly believe the offense is confused with what is going on. Guys don't know who to block. They don't know how to run the routes. It's funny because I was 100% on board with benching Mims believing that he doesn't know the playbook. I thought he was an idiot. I don't think he is now that I look further into our problems. I think widely across the roster guys are not understanding things and Mims falls victim to it because he plays a position with a lot of depth and talent. Corey Davis never had hand issues. He dropped 3 passes all of last year with Tennessee. Now he drops at least 4 in the first 3 games? 9+ drops by our receivers in 3 games? Record pace for sacks and QB hits. Lafleur. Plain and simple to me
It's transcended coaches dude. We had this same problem when we first brought Kalil here. Regressed in talent? McGovern, yeah it seems so. The rest have never been anything in the NFL which is part of the issue. I think the scheme is trash too. But letting a guy blow right through the A gap untouched and the center and guard are eight feet apart? I mean. That play is pretty much unbelievable to watch in so many ways. Block right, block left. One of the tackles is left on an island, back slides the other way, center helps one way if he's uncovered. I can't understand what's so difficult. 4/5 of these dipshits played together last year to start the year. It's not bizarre for an offensive lineman to literally tell the defense who they're blocking. I also think McGovern is sliding the protection drastically to help the trash to his right so that's a big issue as well.
Let's hold our horses here for a second. This is not to say Mike has not been abysmal, but we are blaming him for dropped balls of Cory Davis? No, no, and hell no. You know who is to blame for his dropped balls? Corey Davis. When Zach throws a pass that goes through your hands for a good gain and becomes INT, Mike has done his job. Corey didn't. THAT is plain and simple. As far as why he dropped less last year, I really don't know. I simply did not study him enough. But I did watch every snap this year, and dropped balls plus few others he should have caught, which are not considered "dropped", are Corey's fault and his fault alone.
