Jim Rome is Burning

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  1. Learn To Swim

    Learn To Swim 2008 Nightowltom "Best Non-Jets Poster" Award Winn

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    You could lower your blood pressure by a large percentage if you just turn ESPN off. It's a shadow of a joke of an informative station at this point.
     
  2. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    ESPNews is pretty good for sports information
     
  3. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    i find ESPN as a whole rather good. They have many varying opinions which makes them watchable. It's just those few idiots who make it worse like jason whitlock (the one who said the comments). most of the other ESPN analysts would consider martin a slam dunk hall of famer with a better career than bettis.
     
  4. steviep

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    Martin:

    Among the league's all-time top 50

    Rushes: 3
    Rushing yards: 4 (Smith; Payton; Sanders; Martin)
    Rushing TDs: 10t
    Yards from scrimmage: 7
    Rush/Receive TDs: 16t

    They are morons.

    The only thing that hurts Martin is that for whatever reason -- if you had to rattle off the best rbs of all time (and you are NOT a Jets fan) -- he is going to be behind a bunch of guys.
     
  5. DeathByJets

    DeathByJets Well-Known Member

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    I would be shocked if Martin is a first ballot HOFer. He will certainly get it, but first ballot is reserved for superstars. At a glance, these are the guys that appear to be first ballot guys:

    Troy Aikman
    Marcus Allen
    Raymond Berry
    George Blanda
    Mel Blount
    Terry Bradshaw
    Jim Brown
    Dick Butkus
    Earl Cambell
    Eric Dickerson
    Tony Dorsett
    John Elway
    Dan Fouts
    Forrest Gregg
    Jack Ham
    John Hannah
    Ken Houston
    Deacon Jones
    Jim Kelly
    Walt Kiesling
    Jack Lambert
    Jim Langer
    Steve Largent
    Bobby Layne
    Bob Lilly
    Ronnie Lott
    Dan Marino
    Hugh McElenny
    Joe Montana
    Warren Moon
    Ray Nitschke
    Leo Nomellini
    Merlin Olsen
    Jim Otto
    Jim Parker
    Walter Payton
    Barry Sanders
    Gale Sayers
    OJ Simpson
    Mike Singletary
    Bart Starr
    Roger Staubach
    Ernie Stautner
    Jan Stenerud
    Lawrence Taylor
    Emlen Tunnell
    Johnny Unitas
    Gene Upshaw
    Randy White
    Reggie White
    Larry Wilson
    Steve Young

    Sorry, but Curtis does not belong on that list.

    DbJ
     
  6. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Paul Warfield getting glossed over once again. He's the #3 wide receiver of all time in my book.

    Otherwise, you might have 'em all. If nobody beats me to it, I might post the correct 1st ballot HOFers list tomorrow, if there is anyone else you missed. (EDIT- list is complete below.)
     
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  7. DeathByJets

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    I don't think he was first ballot. He retired in 1977 and was part of the class of 1984. I was using Wikipedia as a reference. One that surprised me was Namath not being first ballot.
     
  8. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Warfield was 1983. Definitely a first ballot guy.
     
  9. DeathByJets

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    I stand corrected. His wikipedia page does list him as class of 1983.
     
  10. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    other first ballot Hall of Famers:
    Lance Alworth
    Chuck Bednarik
    Willie Brown
    Joe Greene
    Franco Harris
    Ted Hendricks
    Gino Marchetti
    Ollie Matson
    Anthony Munoz
    Jackie Slater
     
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    If Franco Harris is a first ballot guy, Martin is an automatic. The man is in the top ten rushers of all time fer cryin out loud!
     
  12. GreenMachine

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    Rome has always had a beef with Martin, because Martin would not go on his show. Martin has always said he wants to do positive interviews, and Rome is the Jerry Springer of sports.
     
  13. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Absolutely. Also, Martin was definitely a better player than Long, Slater, Moon, Kelly, and Allen, in my opinion. There are several others you can argue about.

    Also, Walt Kiesling does not belong on the list. He did not get inducted on the 1st ballot as a player. 1938 was his final season as a player. He coached the Steelers till '56. He was inducted in '66.
     
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    Fuck Jim Rome And Every Little Pussy Faggot They Have On His Show---hate The Guy!!
     
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    Come on now - don't sugar coat it -say it how you really feel it!
     
  16. stinkyB

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    If I saw Jim Rome burning, I'd hand him some gasoline.
     
  17. DeathByJets

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    The big difference is Franco contributed to 4 Super Bowl winners.
     
  18. Angry Teste

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    Actually, on the way home from work yesterday, I was listening to ESPN RADIO, and they talked for over 20 minutes about how Martin is a definate Hall Of Famer, then they were comparing him to Marshall Faulk. They said Martins post season numbers were outstanding, while Faulks left something to be desired.

    So I wouldn't put any stock in anything Rome has to say. He's the Jerry Springer of talk radio.(notice I wouldn't even say "sports" talk)
     
  19. DeathByJets

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    Long wasn't first ballot. (retired 1993, HOF 2000)

    Slater played for 20 years.

    Moon gets credit for CFL play (remember it is Pro Football HOF)

    Kelly - 4 straight SB appearances.

    Allen - SB win and long career and lots of TDs

    If Martin won a SB, he would be first ballot, but I think he is just not a large enough national presence to get in first ballot. There was never any point in his career where he would have been considered the best RB in the league or even among the top 10 players regardless of position.
     
  20. Duk Dodgers

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    I wish the team could've won a ring.....this issue wouldn't even be worth discussing then.

    Championships change everything.

    I'm a big fan of Cmart, but one thing they said on the show did make sense. They said 15 years from now, if we go back to look at football from the late 90's to few years past 2000, you don't really need to discuss C-Mart. Reliable-yes. Durable-without question. Game Changing Playmaker-not really Cmart. He was always good at not losing the game with ability to hang on to the rock/good pass protection/not dropping passes...etc. But for a back his size, he was never a burner nor did he have alot of jaw dropping, ankle breaking moments (he did have some though).

    It comes down to what type of player they want as a 1st ballot HOF'er. If there looking for a great ambassador of the game, a real class act that was reliable year in year out for over a decade then Cmart will get in early. I still think between his numbers and his personality he will still be 1st ballot, but they made some valid points on the show that any un-biased football fan could see and agree with.
     

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