^This This draft is silly with high upside WRs it would be foolish to trade away key 2nd and 3rd round picks.
The 1st round of this draft is the best we've seen in the past several years, and I can virtually guarantee an impact player in a position of need will fall to us. The only time trading up is justified IMO is if that isn't possible, and in that case I almost always favor a trade down, rather than up.
Stephen Hill has high upside. The draft is a crapshoot, but Watkins seems like he's as sure a thing as ever.
The trade up for Jones is a big reason the Falcons collapsed this year. A team needs to hit on a number of draft picks a year to build a competitive roster. One sure way to miss and create holes is to trade picks away. Trade ups are usually a mistake. Plus, who is to say Watkins will be that much better than all of the projected WRs to go in the first round. The draft is still a game of chance. I've seen many apparent stud receivers drafted early and bust. There is no reason for the Jets to trade up, particularly in such a deep draft.
If he's too good for the Jets to draft maybe we should draft (or otherwise obtain) a DB who can stop him.
Looking at the trade value chart. Let's say he somehow falls to 8. If he makes it to 5 that means Oakland, Atlanta, and Tampa Bay would also have to pass on him. Unrealistic but not impossible. Our second and third round pick would be more than enough, while still having the bucs third rounder. Or if we really want to keep the second, both thirds and our fourth, then we keep or second rounder. I wouldn't hate this idea because it also prevents buffalo from getting him. But then again it's risky to trade away valuable picks. We can also look big picture and realize we gave up Revis, a third rounder, and a fourth rounder, for Sheldon Richardson and the ability to draft Sammy Watkins who's one of the most talented players in the draft. So I'm not saying we should do this but it makes a lot more sense than to lose all of our day 1 and day 2 picks.
If you want to draft and trade from a weak position assume that all your competitors are infallible and that you on the other hand can't make anything valuable out of your picks when you select them in place. Zoom, you're trading everything you have up for a few guys to get ahead of all the geniuses and to prevent yourself from drafting the hacks you will inevitably draft if you have to pick in order. The Jets drafting strategy of the last decade has been like Kenny's Unicorn Stampede. Half the time they hit when they traded up and half the time they wound up gored on the horn and lying on the pavement.
No, I wouldn't do it. The way you explain it makes it sound better then my original thought, but I still would not do it. I also don't think Idzik would make a trade like that. That kind of trade is more Taanenbaum's philosophy.
Exactly. Justin Blackmon, Michael Floyd or Alshon Jeffery? Who is going to be the big star? Why settle for Keenan Allen when you can trade that pick and a few others up and get DeAndre Hopkins or Cordarrelle Patterson? Hey! Just go for Tavon Austin! You win Super Bowls in the NFL with great teams, not great players. If you won them with great players then Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald would have a ring between them by now and they don't.
All those players are possible in the first three rounds. I wouldn't give that all up for a receiver. We have a lot of holes to fill.
I really don't understand why any jets fan would entertain such an idea after having watched our roster thin out over the trader mike years.
i dont mind that cost to move from 18 to 5... and i am of the thinking that when you have extra picks you are much better off trading them to either A) move up or B) trade for future picks in higher rounds but not for watkins. i wouldnt take him at 18. in my view dude has bust written all over him
The Julio Jones comparison is not bad. And even though I thought at the time they overpaid to draft him it worked out. I was going to say NO to that deal until I saw that comment. Now I'm not sure. I wouldn't kick and scream if they do it.
I truly believe with the right system and QB there are a handful of WR's in this draft that could put up the same numbers that Watkins will next year.
Great idea. *fart noise* Deepest draft in a decade and we're gonna trade all our top picks for a non-QB? No thanks.