Jets were exposed, plain and simple.....

This thread sucks

 

Jets played a shitty game and still stayed in it, this team has alot of fight, i'm not worried about Sanchez he will bounce back, i'm actually happy he had a game like this to learn and to make adjustments, all everyone was talking about is oh Sanchize this and Sanchize that and no real criticisms we will see a different Sanchez next monday

 

I was exposed to a defense yesterday that held for 3 quarters. I was also exposed to a Rookie QB who made mistakes along with having limited options. If you didn't expect a game like that this year then welcome to football.

 

People need to realize...were not gonna win every game. That doesnt mean were not a good team, we just had a bad day...Answer this Question, How many UNDEFEATED teams have won a superbowl???
At least we did get our first loss and we can see how Mark SAnchez Answers to it!

 

Silly thread.... We lost the game only because of Sanchez' mistakes, so I am not sure what exactly got "exposed" here... The fact that Sanchez is a rookie? Well, it's kinda obvious...

 

Amazing, that's exactly what it was - we totally forgot he's a rook. And yeah that D is going to be scary if they can get everyone on the field. They're scary already.

 

:up: true true

 

Thak you! this will happen from time to time this year. ROOKIE QB! Thats all that happened yesterday... stop reading into it. The Rookie QB gave away 14 early points. That is the long and the short of it...

some people... un-friggin-believable!

 

Booooooo! It's all been already said in this thread.

Hey, this is a different game if it were home instead of in their dome. Not to say we'd win it, but it would be a close game. It really was a close game even with the turnovers. If we can agree that the Saints with their improved defense are an elite NFL team, I don't think it's too far off from thinking we can be one as well.

Our defense is ALREADY there. We just need to improve the offense as we go along. This should happen naturally as Sanchez gets playing time.

Doom and gloom? Be serious....

 

They are not frothy though. A rookie QB had a rookie QB game. That IS the long and the short of it. Now the hope is that Shotty sits him down and works on ball security and staring down recievers. The other thing I'd like is for someone to tell Thomas Jones this isn't dancing with the stars (especially since he isn't a star), he needs to hit a friggin hole!

 

a few things stood out the most to me.

First and above all. Our offensive line has been mediocre and it is showing. We are getting no initial push either running or passing, holes aren't opening for anyone, and Sanchez is not getting enough time. Whether its depth or just our starters, to me it seemed the rush from the outside was the problem. Woody got beat, as well as D'brick multiple times. The offensive line is the backbone of any offense and you simply cannot score (especially keeping up with a team like the saints) if your not getting time in the pocket or getting holes for the run game. This is very troubling considering our whole game plan for the season is too control clock and run the ball, that whole idea can be thrown out the window if the line doesn't shape up.

Second. Everyone talks about our need for a WR. I DONT BUY IT. we have plenty of weapons: Keller, Washington, Cotch, even Stuckey can be dangerous at times. Look at the ravens this year, or even last year, I think we a comparable to them infact I believe we have more talented weapons on the offensive side of the ball than they do. What is the reason they are successful? if you watch their games, you can see that their offensive line is elite, giving their running game timely holes for short gains (4-5yards a piece) occasionally breaking a long gain, and giving Flacco time in the pocket, which allows routes to develop, hence his effectiveness in the passing game this year.
Another problem is our defensive ends. and dline depth. Yes Jenkins is a beast, and Ellis is an above average end. Douglass plays his position with veteran presence but our pass rush (rushing 3 or 4) is anemic. If we can get pressure with a front four or even front three it makes our defense even more succesful. There were plenty of times in this game that I saw Brees get tons of time in the pocket and the saints WRs had time to develop their routes, and boom, Brees throws the ball and its another first down. Granted it happened only a few times but they were in key moments. Now let me say right now the only person besides Jenkins who impressed me rushing the passer WAS VERNON GHOLSTON. yes thats right, there were a couple times, especially that near-interception by revis where vernon had the best push on his man and almost had a sack. Yes we know he has only his bull-rush overpower-you move but he creates enough pressure to make the opposing QB throw the ball quicker than he wants too, causing incompletions, ints etc... Do not get what im saying here twisted, I said rushing the passer not the overall linebacker position. We all know he messed up with that screen play and other various plays not concerning just rushing the QB. I see it as this being his 4th game, considering he didn't play last year. I have watched him improve and I am no where near ready to give up on him. Is he worth the 6th overall pick? no prob not, but most experts say it takes 3-4 years before assessing a draft pick effectively.

Bottom line
we are not getting sacks because we have to outnumber blockers with our blitzing schemes. we will need to get pressure with our dline when we are not blitzing if we want to bring this team to an elite level. And those couple sacks throughout a game could have prevented the saints from advancing down the field, giving us better field position, blah blah...you know the drill.

Oline must improve. Our game plan should be to just pound the run over and over again. Those 3rd and 1 pass plays were unnecessary. Confidence in the run is going to be key for us.

This team needs alot of work. Don't be fooled about the next four games they look easy but any team can loose any day of the week. Monday night is a test but no team can be taken for granted, especially the dolphins.
I love this team right now and the future looks good. But we will eventually need a very good to elite pass rusher on this team lining up at the line of scrimmage if we want this defense to be this good for years to come.
GO JETS and do not let this game get to you!

 

If a rookie QB is the long and short of it, isn't he still going to be a rookie next week and the week after?

The Jets formula for winning is suppossed to be a great D coupled with a ball control running game. It seemed to me the Saints who don't rely on that formula actually had a better running game and controlled the clock and beat us at our own game and forced the rookie QB to put points on the board which of course he did.

Why isn't that something to be concerned with the rest of the way?

 

OLB depth? What the hell are you talking about? We have Bryan Thomas, Calvin Pace, Westerman, Gholston.... huh?

 

Absolutely .... The Saints are the BEST team we will face this year ... As for saying that WE need to take a few steps to get to the Ravens and/or Patsies level ... I don't agree, the Raven were thrashed by the same Patriots that we handled quite nicely ... We can stand toe to toe with the Patsies day in and day out and do NO WORSE than 50% ... I watched quite a bit of the Ravens yesterday ... Thier defensive reputation is much greater than thier current defense is ....

 

I'm not sure how you can even make any points against this D. No they're not getting sacks but they've gotten a lot...A LOT of pressure and the secondary has held up remarkably. The Run D is more than sufficient. They've allowed 43 points in the first 4 games, against teams that are supposed to be racking up points. Hell, NO avg 40 per game by themselves.

 

Two reasons:

1. Mark Sanchez will be a bit less of a rookie each game that passes. He's going to have games that remind us that he's new to the NFL and he's going to have games where everything works ok.

2. The Jet's D really is good enough to win with. The losses this year will be on the offense, however the schedule does not suggest there will be a lot more of them.

 

The Saints may well be the best team we face this year but there is absolutely no way to no it in week 4.

The Ravens were not thrashed by the Pats they had a great shot to win that game and the Pats yesterday were not exactly the same team we faced at home a couple of weeks ago and we and they won't be exactly the same teams when we face each other in November.

This league is about growth, attrition and adjustments. Nothing in early October is the same in late November.

 

3 things that lost the game... and yes... stating the obvious.

1.) Mark Sanchez ROOKIE mistakes.
2.) Horrid Offensive playcalling.
3.) Absolutly pitiful reffing.

That's it.

 

I think your reading to much into my post. The cause of yesterday's loss was a couple rookie mistakes... the general cause, 3 picks one to close out the game one that lead to a 99 yard TD, one fumble for a TD.

You can not expect to hold down an offense as good as the Saints offense is an entire game. They are going to get thier yards. The game plan was obvious, stop the passing attack.

From what I've seen over the first 4 weeks of this season, I am a bit concerned that we don't run the ball MUCH more effectively. I am hoping the ankle injury to Shonn Greene is minor, because if it is, I think you may see a lot more of him, and a lot less of dancing with the non-stars (Thomas Jones). Everyone got a glimpse of why we moved up to draft him. A big back who hits the hole.

And for the record, I'm really not a fan of the way shotty calls a game, I said it last year, too.

Relying on your rookie QB to win the game is never a good idea, but I assume he thought its worked so far, it should work again. We all saw how that worked out.

I agree that it should be a concern, but the long and the short of YESTERDAYS game, the Jets could not overcome 4 Rookie QB mistakes.

One day at a time, one game at a time.