Jets vs. Patriots discussion thread

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Hemi, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. PatsFan01923

    PatsFan01923 New Member

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    Care to attempt to explain away Rex Ryan's mouth???

    You admit that it was "comical" as he tried to stay humble. Watch the Pats posts game interviews... these guys ARE humble. They know that it's a team sport, win as a team, lose as a team.
     
  2. PatsFan2003

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    Revis was great against Wayne. He just shut him down but I wonder if that's the best D against the Patriots? How good is Revis in a zone type of D?
     
  3. Big Blocker

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    Pats fans talking about supposed bragging by Ryan don't know what they are talking about. He has confidence in his team, but he ALWAYS gives props to the opponents. Almost too much, imo. Add it up, that ain't bragging.

    Let's talk about something more important - the way these teams match up.

    The most critical I think is the NE receivers v. the Jet pass D, but that's not the only one.

    Special Teams. How is NE doing in their punt and kick returns? Different from the 12/5 game, Weatherford has been kicking great, and Folk has steadied. On returns I doubt you'll see Holmes doing that, and hopefully B Smith is back and ready, but the Jets have been doing quite well with that aspect. Coverage has also been very good.

    NE run D. NE gives up 4.2 per carry. While that arguably is not as low against the league as their pass D, giving up 7.1 ypa (compared to the Jets' 6.5), NE also led the league in interceptions, so arguably NE has that big play capability on pass D. And of course the Jets prefer to run the ball, anyway.

    Imo the 12/5 game is probably the least likely to control this aspect and special teams (since Weatherford was horrible in the 12/5 game). The Jets really did no get much of a chance to get their running game going then. This could be different.

    So what remains as the concern is defending the Pats receivers as the most critical challenge facing the Jets. Imo it's a bad matchup for them, no two ways about it. The Indy game might have some parallels, but not too much, really.

    In short the key to the game will be how well the Jets contain the Pats receivers, and of course that turnovers not determine the game (see that NE interception stat).

    Jets have to run it with success early, and not let NE get into their high percentage completion passing attack to win this game.
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Sunday's Officiating Crew

    # Referee: 127 – Bill Leavy
    # Umpire: 76 – Darrell Jenkins
    # Head Linesman: 26 – Mark Baltz
    # Line Judge: 9 – Mark Perlman
    # Field Judge: 63 – Jim Quirk
    # Side Judge: 20 – Barry Anderson
    # Back Judge: 61 – Keith Ferguson

    Code:
    2010 Defensive Pass Interference by Crew
    Rank 	Referee 	Defensive Pass Interference
    1 	Ed Hochuli 	24
    2 	Jerome Boger 	20
    3 	Mike Carey 	17
    [COLOR="Red"][B]3 	Bill Leavy 	17[/B][/COLOR]
    3 	Ron Winter 	17
    6 	Terry McAulay 	16
    6 	Jeff Triplette 	16
    8 	Tony Corrente 	14
    9 	Walt Coleman 	11
    9 	Walt Anderson 	11
    11 	Gene Steratore 	10
    11 	Clete Blakeman 	10
    11 	John Parry 	10
    14 	Carl Cheffers 	9
    15 	Pete Morelli 	7
    16 	Scott Green 	6
    16 	Al Riveron 	6
    Totals 	All 	221
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/31018/officially-speaking-2010-referee-stats

    Hopefully Rex is coaching them up appropriately.
     
  5. PatsFan01923

    PatsFan01923 New Member

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    45-3 and Brady didn't even take every snap.

    The only way this is any less of a blow out is if Brady and the other started sit the entire 4th qtr.

    I'm really not anti-Jet or anti-Sanchez. It's just that this is the Pats year. You guys are a bump in the road.
     
  6. TommyGreen

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    Good catch. I have a feeling we'll be playing less man coverage this time around.
     
  7. James Calvin

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    Read this:

    http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=29431
     
  8. PatsFan01923

    PatsFan01923 New Member

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    Good analysis... I agree with much of it.
     
  9. PatsFan01923

    PatsFan01923 New Member

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    Too new to view links
     
  10. NY Jets68

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    2008-2010 Roughing the Passer by Crew
    Rank Referee 2008 2009 2010 Totals
    14 Bill Leavy 1 3 5 9

    This crew ranks in the bottom 3rd for calling roughing the passer.

    Tommy will have to have a talk with this crew...
     
  11. PatsFan01923

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    Are you already starting to blame the officiating crew????
     
  12. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    The blow hard Pats fans, as opposed to the serious ones, the latter meaning fans who actually knew what football looked like before 2001, must not have much in the way of memory. We all remember their blowout predictions after their 18-0 season, the 19-0 t shirts.

    How did those blow out predictions work for that game?
     
  13. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I'm just pointing out a detail about the upcoming game. Our first week of the season we had a ref crew notorious for throwing a lot of pass interference and Rex didn't have them prepared for that. If the Jets get a lot of pass interference this week, I will blame Rex for not having them prepared for the "conditions".
     
  14. No but We're already starting to realize that you are a typical Patty cake tool.
     
  15. JfaulkNYJ

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    Whats your opinion on using Revis on Pats WRs/TE's if you had green goggles on? What would you do with him?
     
  16. NY Jets68

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    Different crews have different tendencies or didn't they teach you that in Bandwagoning 101™?
     
  17. Jetscrazy87

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    Go to the Stickies at the top of this forum, and read "All signs point to.....the Perfect Season".
     
  19. PatsFan01923

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    Different teams on both sides of the ball. I was not one of the 19-0 guys back then either.... believe me.
     
  20. PatsFan01923

    PatsFan01923 New Member

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    This year, with the dumping of Moss and the focus on the underneath passing game (25% of Brady's completions are to TE's) made the 2010 Pats more like the 2001 Pats than the 2007 Pats.
     

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