Jets vs Patriots Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by IATA, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. skeleton_frames

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    That would be awesome if LT threw a pass. Up until now I'd actually forgotten the TDs he threw while on the Chargers.
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    The Jets called an LT pass play this season but he took it down and ran with it because nothing was open.
     
  3. MexicanJet

    MexicanJet Well-Known Member

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    Just beat these fucking cheating faggots!!!!
     
  4. sec314

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    Yeah man, this is the big one. Jets are gonna pull out all stops. We have not done much trickrey this year, time to dust off the some of those crazy plays and use one at the right time and early. I hope with the extra time off, Schotty doesn't screw up the game plan like he did for Baltimore and the Pack. We should just look at the Browns win against the Pats, just out physical them, that's our edge, pound them all day and wear there pussy asses down. I want pretty boy screaming at his offensive line while they scrap his ass off the ground. Its time for the Jets to play 60 minutes of JET FOOTBALL
     
  5. macbk

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    JET FOOTBALL is so up in the air at this point. We all look for the run, but then in recent weeks we are all calling for the pass. To beat NE, we will need both. I want to see the run early and often, so that the pass game can be opened up. Or, do we attack them early with passes, and then pound them later on in the game with the run?

    Decisions, decisions...
     
  6. JetFanInMD

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    The first line I've seen is Pasts -3.5.
     
  7. fozzi58

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    Back to the discussion.

    If the Jets D shows up like they did against Cincy, they should be able to keep Brady's air damage to a minimum.

    I've said it before, the passes are going to be going to Gronk, Hernandez, Edelmann, & Woodhead. Cro & Revis will remove Branch and Welker. So Leonhard & Co better be ready.

    The run game is nothing special and should be contained. Pressure/pas rush will be another problem. Hopefully Taylor & Pace have their best regular season game.
     
  8. Coach K

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    1. force brady to move in the pocket
    2. eliminate Gronkowski and Hernandez
    3.dont abandon the ground game
    4. dustin keller should take advantage of some younger LB'ers
    5. limit penalties/turnovers
     
  9. Professor Frink

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    It seems to me that most Jets fans are overlooking our running game. Don't get me wrong, it's not any kind of dominating attack, but if the Jets want to stop it, they are gonna have to respect it, unlike in years past where they would just sell out to stop the pass.

    If they are playing honest, they're probably gonna struggle pressuring Brady and be vulnerable in the middle.
     
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    From Peter King's MMQB column, what he didn't like:

    f. Officials in Detroit-New England. Nailing the Lions with three personal fouls in the waning moments and New England none ... guys, the Lions aren't fighting with each other.

    I hope we don't have to deal with this bullshit reffing also.
     
  11. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    then Bart Scott needs to fucking chill.

    His 15 yard stupidity comes at the worst times.
     
  12. Denny

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    Yeah I'm down for just lining up and playing straight up 11 on 11. When Shotty tries to be clever more often than not he outsmarts himself. It's nice when it works but against a team like New England it's just in vain.

    Look for Belly to copy Shotty's tricks and use it against the Jets. They over pursue quit often. He has a penchant for turning an opposing coaches trickery against against him. Just to prove he can do it better. I swear the guy gets bored and does stuff like that. Maybe a flea flicker, halfback option or reverse just to piss everybody off.

    This game isn't the 'end all be all' of games with both teams in close degree of separation. But it will determine for now who rules the division. A loss here won't be devastating but will make the rest of the way more important. I don't think this team will fall apart with a loss. It actually make them focus a whole lot better. And no I'm not hoping for a loss. A win however will bring heaps of confidence. The Jets are a good team that is about to get hot at the right time.
     
  13. fozzi58

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    I don't think its being overlooked, I think as fans we believe it can be stopped. We know the weapon Woodhead is, and the "guy with all the names" is a stout runner as well, but the Jets rush D has held top RBs and 4 of the top 15 rushing teams to under 100 yards per game.

    Any Jet fan in their right mind knows that Brady is the person to fear on the Pats team. He can put the ball in anyone's hand. So stopping the run is much less a concern than stopping the pass. The throws to the TE's and the checkdowns to RBs will be the problem the Jets D has. Its going to be 9on9 when the Brady is on the field. My concern is how those 9 defensive players are going to stop the 3 or 4 weapons Brady still has to throw too.
     
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    Obviously the Jets can stop the running game, and obviously Brady is the man to fear on the Patriots offense, I'm not trying to say anything to the contrary. I'm simply saying that when Rex Ryan's defense has had success against Brady (past two years and the Ravens game in 07) they've done it by selling out against the pass. I don't think that is an option this time around, if they want to win they will have to play honest.

    So to me the real question is can the Jets shut down our passing game while respecting the running game? If they can't pin their ears back and try to get after Brady, do you as Jets fans have confidence they can put pressure on him? And if so, what is that based off of, because from the games I've seen the Jets have generally struggled the get after the QB.
     
  15. Jets42long

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    I bet it goes up to 4.5 before it closes.And if that's the case, smart money is on the jets.
     
  16. Big Blocker

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    Yes, the Jets have struggled with the pass rush, but...

    They have been getting pressure on them. They knocked Stafford out of the Detroit game. Palmer looked to be feeling it, too. Against the Texans, though, a gimpy Schaub didn't seem to be feeling it too much. But overall any Jet fan will acknowledge the pass rush is disappointing.
     
  17. Jets42long

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    Yes our pass rush has been dissapiinting this year, but that is mostly bc teams have smartened up and kept max protect in bs our overload blitzes (especially on 3rd and long). But if you look at the qbs completion % when they played us we are #1 in. The league. So even if we aren't getting to the qb we are still rattling them. I know Brady is very cool under pressure, but don't expect him to have a great game. Good possible. But not what you guys are used to.
     
  18. Denny

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    The Pats run two ways. Short passes and traditional. They obviously prefer the former. To me Sanchez is going to have to offset what I feel will be the Pats moving the ball regularly. I expect Brady to unload in under 2.5 seconds at the most. I wanna say blitzing will probably be at a minimum but the need to develop pressure especially when Brady wants to go deep is going to have to play a factor. I think this will depend on the Jets success on offense.

    It's going to be Sanchez vs. Brady. Tit for tat. Eye for an eye. Shotty will have to uncuff Mark here. It's imperative that he does this. Mark offsets some of his poorer decision with big plays.

    With Sanchez looking deep more often than not there could be a scenario where Brady will have to look deep more and get away from the dink and dunk due to Sanchez being successful. That will play into the Jets defense ready to T-Off. One can only hope.
     
  19. Jets42long

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    I think this is going to be the game NE finally misses Moss. Not having him this game allows us to put revis on Welker and hopefully Cro will split time between Branch and one of their TEs. That should really help neutralize what Brady can do especially if we can get some pressure on him.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    Overall I think it will be a higher than average scoring game, if you look at total game averages and ppg v. points allowed for NE.

    The problem for the Jets is that they are not scoring much early in games, having to come up with points later. That may have something to do with Sanchez having to work his way into form during the game, but imo more than that is that Rex wants to run the ball early. And that has not led to early points. It may well wear down the opponent, and of course in the first game against NE the Pats fell apart in teh second half.

    If NE gets too far out in front, though, watch out. That's my concern - do the Jets stick with ground and pound early even if NE gets out front by two or more scores?
     

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