Jets vs Mia Week 14 2019 - Studs and Duds

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  1. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    There are two Smiths -- Jeff and Vyncint, and Ty Montgomery is officially listed as WR/RB.

    I didn't notice it was Montgomery, or I would have tossed him from the count. But, technically, the active roster shows 7 WRs, plus Q and Bellamy on IR.
     
  2. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    All it takes is one team to offer him 18-20+ million. Then we have to match it or he's gone.
     
  3. ouchy

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    If Robbie finished the season strong and posts over 700 yards he is worth 10 mil a year. If not, he isn't worth 10 mil a year and we shouldn't pay him that much. If someone wants to pay him 18 mil - good luck to them.
     
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  4. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    he fights i always see him dive and layout. he's one of the bets at tracking a ball and one of the fastest. he's hard to overthrow i think darnold is being over cautious a lot of the time
     
  5. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    i don't think so. it's barely more the enunwa got a year ago or crowder got a year ago in a much better FA class. it's the same as shepard. robby is better then all 3 of them.

    a contract like that pays him in the same range as
    funchess, boyd, lockett, shepard, tyrell williams, keenan allen and alshon jeffrey. i'd argue robby is better then all of them
     
  6. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    jeff smith was promoted monday after the game. he hasn't been on an active gameday roster yet. Ty is a RB and with bell out he was our RB2 for the game. powell is likely to miss thursday so ty will be RB2 again.
     
  7. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    we can resign him before the season ends like we did with enunwa
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Dude you're really nuts about him. Better than Keenan Allen, Lockett and Boyd?

    Alshon's completely washed up and hurt and leaves every game in the first quarter but c'mon now with the other three.
     
  9. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    DUDS: NY Jets, Miami Dolphins

    STUDS: Fans who sat through the game
     
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  10. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    keenan allen is a product of the system and rivers chucking it around. rivers has made decent WRs look great his entire career and those WRs leave and do nothing (case in point tyrell williams) but the list is long. Lockett is the ultimate hype man. always about to break out and never does. admittedly he makes some good catches and is having a good year finally and in year 5 should finally break 1000 yards but he's had a pro bowl QB his whole career and is averaging 695 yards a season and less then 5 TDs a season in his 1st 4 years with a pro bowl QB. rovvy has done better then that with nothing at QB pretty much. boyd has never had to be the number 1 until this year since he always had green on the other side taking attention. Robby has been the focal point for defenses to key in on since his 2nd year
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Lockett is way better at tracking balls than Robby is and is still the focal point of defenses when they play Seattle. They're a run heavy offense so his numbers are where they would be in that situation.

    Keenan Allen is just excellent and sports a much better catch rate than Robby with a million targets thrown his way every year. 81 catches at 68.1% as Rivers has declined significantly this year. There's just no argument on this one. Robby IS Tyrell Williams.

    Tyler Boyd produced as the #2 target and is now producing as the #1. He's big, physical and a chain mover and a thousand times better than Anderson at 50/50 balls.

    The fact remains that Robby Anderson mostly NEEDS to be open to catch the ball. The others don't. The catch rate is a good indicator of that.

    We're just in a situation where he needs to be retained because the alternative is Josh Bellamy getting significant run. And that would be a mess.
     
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  12. GasedAndConfused

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    they really arne't run heavy though. it's skewed a little bit because mobile QB. they were run heavy back in the lynch days and when they made a SB but not as much anymore. and robby has caught many contested balls the past few games and over his career and if darnold threw a better deep ball he'd have an extra 250 yards and 5 TDs minimum right now. rivers is declining but he's like a 6 time probowl QB and same goes for wilson who is an MVP candidate. robby has no one to draw attention, shit QBs most of his career until now with darnold progressing and no o-line.
     
  13. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    They're 4th in the NFL in attempts. They're run heavy. They got in the situation where they needed to pass and struggled because their offensive line is not a good pass blocking line itself.

    Better quarterbacks throwing to them can't always be the argument to defend why a player isn't great at catching contested balls. I can throw the argument right back and say better receivers with bigger catch radius' make a quarterbacks life easier.

    Yet production supports my argument better than yours.
     
  14. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    So is he a stud or dud?
     
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    again skewed because of wilson. take out wilsons runs and they drop down to 15th behind TB and Det 2 teams that don't run much.
     
  16. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I still have to say stud. it would have been easy to come out and get wrecked after the bengals game and being out of the playoff hunt but we fought hard and got the W regardless. and his playcalling wasn't awful most of the time
     
  17. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don't see why that matters. He's still scrambling and running the ball. Their offensive line is not a good pass blocking line and never has been. He gets free rushers screaming off the edge against him a lot.

    I know you'll make some sort of argument about no receivers being open though so he has to. :rolleyes:
     
  18. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    His play calling was bad and nearly cost the Jets the game and you still say stud?
    I applaud your conviction.
     
  19. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    we won right? how many times under bowles did we lay down and take it. he had the team ready to play and fighting. that is important as a coach.
     
  20. GasedAndConfused

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    bingo, because it's called pass plays where his WRs didn't get open so he took off and ran.
     

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