Jets vs Houston Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by IATA, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. AbdulSalam

    AbdulSalam New Member

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    Newsflash: we aren't a dominant team. The reason we don't blow anybody out is because aren't good enough to dominate yet. Our offense routinely has execution problems and our D hasn't played a full 60 of shutdown D yet - so teams hang around. We aren't that good yet. If they keep improving on both sides of the ball they could become a monster in January, but we'll see.
     
  2. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    They are close though. For as tight as Cleveland played that game the Jets did dominate it. All that ultimately matters is the score and the score was very close. If they Jets get into the endzone on either of their long drives in the second half the game probably becomes a blowout, or at least a more relaxing experience at the end.

    Getting into the endzone is obviously easier said than done but, as is the case with most things in sports, one or two plays in the Jets favor and the Browns game isn't all that close. They are right on the cusp of realizing the potential that this roster has. Hopefully we see them develop the ability to hit the knockout punch early on instead of going right down to the wire.
     
  3. JfaulkNYJ

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    texans may sign jason allen. i hope he is lined up against braylon edwards.
     
  4. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    They already did.
     
  5. AbdulSalam

    AbdulSalam New Member

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    i don't disagree w/you. If our red zone efficiency improves we'd be more dominant. But right now we have one of the worst red zone offenses in the NFL (ranked 30th). In the last 3 games our RZE has been 22.22% which is the 2d worst in the NFL. I think this has something to do with poor playcalling and poor execution. But the bottom line is that our offense is not effective in the RZ and as a result we are not putting games away even though we move the ball well between the 20s and even though we often have good field position.
     
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  6. JfaulkNYJ

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    ah. im lost.
     
  7. MikeHoncho

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    If the Jets convert inside the Red Zone this week instead of getting close and kicking field goals, this could be a blowout. The Texans don't match up well with the Jets at all.

    1. Schaub gets zero protection from his o-line and has been playing like crap. Not good news against a team that sends blitzes from all angles. The only big game's he's had are when Andre Johnson goes wild on weak secondaries. Unfortunately for them, we have a guy by the name of Revis who will neutralize Andre.

    2. Arian Foster has been having a big year running the ball, but the Jets have an elite run defense, so I can't see Foster running roughshod like he has been against other teams.

    3. Their defense is a complete and utter embarrassment. The Jets should go up and down the field at will on them. I mean come on, even the Giants blew them out. This could definitely be the game the Jets put it all together and crush a team.
     
  8. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    agreed. i'd like to see a couple more jump balls for Braylon Edwards, as opposed to trying to work the underneath right at the goal line.

    or, ground and pound it when you're one the 2 after running it the entire drive to get there
     
  9. Play Like A Jet

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    We all seem pretty confident in our corners taking care of business and the Jets getting it done this week. Let me point out though that on the Browns game-tying drive at the end of regulation Revis gave up a big first down play in the red zone and right after Cromartie gave up the touchdown to Massaquoi (which was his first receiving touchdown in 7 games). I think we have the best corner tandem in the league but anything is possible in the NFL. Especially with guys like Andre Johnson lining up on the opposite side of the ball. I really do think we'll win it but I think we're a little overly optimistic with this blow out talk.
     
  10. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Just what I was getting at. I don't think the offense is anywhere near as bad those numbers would indicate. The red zone numbers should get better throughout the second half of the year and if they can even become a middle of the pack performer in the red zone it will be a tough team to beat.


    Damn those red zone numbers are disgusting.
     
  11. AbdulSalam

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    Totally agree. We don't blow teams out. Our D is good, not perfect. Our offense is among the most ineffective red zone offenses in the NFL. Hopefully that changes this week, but i wouldn't bet the house on it.
     
  12. truthbtold

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    Agreed ... but to quote our coach ... Houston's defense "can't stop a nose bleed". They truly are god-awful and we should score easily and often against them (stupid penalties aside).
    Revis will keep Johnson in check and our run D should slow down Foster enough for the Jets to win comfortably.

    We won't blow them out, but I bet we win by more than 10 points.
     
  13. Jets42long

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    I agree 100% with this BE is a physical freak. I have no idea why we don't just Sanchez throw it up for grabs when we are inside the ten. Any game where we have multiple tris inside the Rex zone,we should try this at least twice.

    It's really a no risk play if Sanchez throws a good ball it's either a td or incomplete. It is a much lower risk play than all those throws underneath and quick slants we have been running inside the red zone lately.
     
  14. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Those were also the only two plays given up by either player the entire game. Obviously they both came in big spots but I am going to give the Browns all the credit on both of those plays. Revis was in perfect position as usual and McCoy threw a perfect pass and that TE made a very tough catch with Revis almost breaking it up. The play on Cromartie was a nice design that they executed very well. They are both great corners but they still don't walk on water.

    I don't expect a blow out but I do see the potential for one. Houston's offense is much more vertical than the Browns and their line is nowhere near as physical as the Browns was on Sunday. The only line that I have seen that is comparable to the Browns as far as physicality is our own and I think the Browns were more physical than I have seen our line since last year.

    The running game should be neutralized more so than against the Browns for that reason which should force Schaub to throw the ball a lot. I don't think we will see as many underneath routes as the Browns ran because that isn't how the Texans offense normally operates. I expect Revis and Cromartie will be tested by Schaub multiple times during the game and I expect they will be up to the task many more times than not.
     
  15. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    In the first half of that Browns game, there were guys wide open but we adjusted very well in the second half. Even on the game tying drive the coverage was pretty good. Sometimes the other team makes plays ... it doesn't mean the receivers weren't covered.
     
  16. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I am not worried about Houston at our house, but you never know. Revis will take away Johnson, our Run D can take away Foster and their D is terrible. But you never know.
     
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    Agree with you and AbdulSalam. The Jets are an elite talent with slightly above average execution.

    If we execute in all phases there's not a team that can beat us.

    I think if we line up and punch Houston in the mouth they'll go away. They're a soft team.
     
  18. RapZiLLa54

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    I'd just like to see us terrorize a QB this season.... The last few games the qbs have had all day to do whatever they want in the pocket. Even McCoy was pretty comfortable for most of the game.

    With the horrible oline of the Texans I hope we can have atleast 4 sacks...


    Stop with the 3 man rush... Send JT-Pouha-Price-Ellis. We have the personel to run any defensive front we want but yet we never have a 4 man rush.... Its annoying.
     
  19. KWJetsFan

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    I also cannot see a blowout. A win is a win, and that's all that matters, but we have struggled to beat Denver, Minny, Detroit and Cleveland. They are all mediocre to poor teams. The one decent team in there (GB), shut us out at home off a bye. We still commit way too many costly penalties. I keep waiting for us to cut down on those but we haven't. We also seem to play worse, especially on offense, at home.

    I think the Jets win, but I expect another nailbiter. I have been waiting and expecting for 5 weeks to play a "complete" game and we haven't. Until we do, I anticipate more cardiac arrest inducing games.
     
  20. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    Just throw at Bernard pollard's way and you're guaranteed a completion.

    their secondary is beyond terrible. mark's gonna have a field day especially if they stack the box
     

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