Jets to retain 3-4 base defense under Williams?

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  1. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Frankly I really don't give a flying fuck as to what Williams runs - hell, I won't care if Williams runs some 5-2 Eagle front for crying out loud.

    As long as his defense attacks, and brings the QB down to the ground (hard, preferably) I really don't care how he does it.
     
  2. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder what the reasoning is here. The only players I see really benefiting from sticking in the 3-4 are Henry Anderson (not currently rostered) and maybe Jordan Jenkins. We're forcing a 4-3 guy into a 3-4 based off of those guys? So if Lawrence were to become available and we signed him, are we making this guy stand up? Nick Bosa too? I think we'd be jumping the gun a bit making that decision this early. Sure, you need a plan when filling out the roster, but there isn't a ton of high level 3-4 talent on the market anyway.
     
  3. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    Agree

    Everyone has a plan (scheme) until they get punched in the mouth

    It’s not how you start it’s how you play and adjust

    dopes are stuck on these made up “rules” and alignments for football. Beat your man, do your job.


    Anyone notice the Pats last 6 titles? Their defense was completely designed based on opponent


    Only fools givie a shit about “scheme” for week 1.
     
  4. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    What if we land one of the top two pass rushers coming out
    AND an elite FA pass rusher with all this cap space?

    Then how dominant would a Leonard Williams be at the L.O.S?

    It's not the 3-4 or 4-3 scheme it's the players and Leonard and Jamal are two great defensive building blocks to have.
     
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  5. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Yikes!!!! He sounded exactly like Bowles.

    It's all about that hidden production baby!!!!
     
  6. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    We're not the Patriots.

    We've been running this scheme for the better part of the past 21 years since Parcells came here in 1998.

    And lack of a pass rush from the defensive front has been a problem for much of that time. Heck they've been trying to find a pass rusher ever since they let Abraham walk in 2005.

    Yet they keep on burning first round picks on defensive linemen to fit this scheme. And when those players don't produce big numbers we get the same tired excuse oh this scheme isn't designed for linemen to put up big sacks numbers.

    So if this scheme isn't designed for linemen to produce big numbers WHY DO THE JETS CONTINUE TO USE FIRST ROUND PICKS ON LINEMEN TO FIT THIS TIRED SCHEME?

    OR

    Why not just allow Williams to run HIS 4-3 that he's run everywhere he's been? He'd usually had big time pass rushers Jevon Kearse, Myles Garrett etc.

    It's the Jets stupid things happen here.
     
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  7. WarriorRB28

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    It's not just that they're sticking with the 3-4 the papers are also saying that the Jets will be looking for undersized front line players to fit into this 3-4.

    Quite possibly a NFL first. Every 3-4 I've seen before requires BIGGER front line players not smaller.

    If those reports are accurate it would be a disaster. A undersized 3-4 has the makings of one of the worst if not the worst run defense of all time.
     
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  8. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Hidden production = role player.

    Only the Jets are dumb enough to talk up a role player and pay him like he's doing star player things/is a star.
     
  9. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the football coaches know more than some shlubs on a website?
     
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  10. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    No one runs a base defense the majority of the time anymore. It's been that way for years.

    Stop the over obsession with the 3-4.
     
  11. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Excited about Gregg Williams defense, smack them in the mouth
     
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  12. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    I never said anything about hidden production.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Hidden production is the dumbest terminology I have ever heard in terms of football.
     
  14. Sam Hammer

    Sam Hammer Well-Known Member

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    Are you trolling us? Where did the Jets say they were looking for undersized players?? They just want faster players on the edge. You really have no clue what you are talking about. Their current players are the right size for 3-4.
     
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  15. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    “Off the charts intangibles “
    Makes no sense
     
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  16. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Must've listen to Stephen A Smith to get that one.
     
  17. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I listened to SAS once for 5 minutes and now my ears are part of the #metoo movement
     
  18. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Better hide your kids and hide your wife. The only time I listen to SAS, is when the Cowboys lose cause it's kinda funny
     
  19. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Rather stick an ice pick in my ears then listen to him
     
  20. Rollo Tomassi

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    Ouch.
     

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