This makes zero sense. If I go on ebay right now and put in a bid of 2,000 dollars on a Corvette it is not gonna work but that does not mean that I would want to spend 50,000 on it.
It seems like your primary argument is that I've been indicating that I don't think the Jets will bring back Cromartie. That has never been my argument, so your comment about a backpedal is pretty far from the mark. I don't personally like Cromartie as a player, especially when the people who were arguing to get his made their primary argument that he'd be a much better man cornerback in the Jets' scheme because he was strong enough to reroute players and physically gifted enough to maintain tight coverage to allow Rex's blitzes to be effective. That's a bad fit for the scheme. So much so that Rex scrapped his man schemes to avoid elite QBs taking advantage of his flaws in the system, in addition to inside coverage by the LBs and safeties. I don't think he can do that, and in effect we traded a 2nd round pick for exactly what San Diego was getting for their first round pick. An overrated corner who relies too much on physical ability and not enough on technique. Your of argument in the past 2 posts is flawed. I encourage you to actually re-read the arguments we had in previous threads so that you can avoid embarrassing yourself further.
You keep acting like cutting someone who isn't under contract in 2011 somehow makes sense. Why would the Jets bother cutting someone who isn't under contract in 2011? Just to make a "fuck you" statement?
I did not mean to say cheap as opposed to a fair price. I meant they would not want to sign anyone who was too expensive. Short of that, the cheaper the better, of course. But obviously they will be willing to pay market price, but not significantly more than market price, for anyone.
Actually not at all. If I were not under contract, and my team from last year had no intention of bringing me back and would not, I would probably appreciate knowing that sooner than later. Then I could proceed accordingly.
Your first mistake is assuming I was only referring to you in referring to Cromartie haters. Other Cromartie haters here have said different things from you. Some have literally posted here saying he will not be back. You are entitled to your opinion about him and his relative ability as a cornerback. I do not share it. In fact I think the FO and the CS likes him. If I am right, unless of course he goes elsewhere for significantly more money, which might well happen, I think he will be back. Not because they will be making a mistake in bringning him back, but because I think they think he's a good fit, that Wilson is not ready to start, that they don't think they can do better on the market, and I HOPE they also think their higher draft picks would be better spent on the front seven, and will not use a high pick at corner again this year. I obviously disagree with your final paragraph.
That fact that you called it a backpedal in my previous post obviously means that you thought I was making the argument that I thought the Jets were going to unload him - so it appears that you took my advice and read through previous arguments. Good show. The Jets' FO/CS have proven that they are not infallible, otherwise they never would have kept Vernon Gholston so long, based on physical ability versus willingness to learn the scheme, focus on football or devote himself to work in the film room. Keeping Cromartie doesn't necessarily mean that they think he is a great fit, as you are hoping, but can also mean that maybe they THINK they can coach him into the scheme better than they have. And yes, you keep disagreeing with my opinion, which is fine. Someone has to be wrong.
Perhaps. It could also mean that they hope someone will express some interest in him, and perhaps they can get something for him in return that could help them in 2011, rather than just letting him walk and getting nothing, or maybe getting a compensatory pick in 2012. Maybe they think that by tendering him it will increase his value in the eyes of other GMs. The Jets always get screwed on compensatory picks, so maybe the Jets are hedging their bets. I'm not a fan of Clemens, but I don't hate him. One thing is for sure...the Jets need to have a #3 QB who knows the system and can play should both Sanchez and Brunell go down with injuries, particularly if they don't re-sign Brad Smith. Personally, I hope they re-sign Smith anyway, and I'd rather go with him as the #3 than Clemens, but Clemens did look better last year during preseason than he has in a while, maybe ever as a Jet.
With respect to Cromartie, I think the Jets are just covering their butts. I don't think they are high on Cromartie. They made a reasonable gamble last offseason in hopes that Wilson would be ready this year or that Cromartie would become the kind of player they hoped he would. If one of those things happened, great, they're set. If both happened, then it would be gravy. IMO neither thing happened. Cromartie does some things well, but other things not well at all. He really doesn't fit the scheme. He's too passive (doesn't use his hands and re-route receivers at the LOS) and is a liability against quicker, smaller receivers. I think they wanna hold onto him at least for a while for insurance purposes, in case Wilson isn't ready, but if they do lose him, they want to get something back for him and not just have paid a 2nd round pick for a 1-year rental. If they do keep him, I think it will be just for 2011, and if Wilson isn't ready by the end of the 2011 season, they will draft another CB in the 2012 draft and perhaps move on from both. In no way do I think they'd sign Cromartie to a long term deal. He just doesn't play the way Rex wants his CBs to play. They can't fix everything this year, especially with all the FAs they have, and the CBA up in the air.
NFL teams aren't known for looking out for the players in situations like these. And you also have to think of the possibility of a lockout and that small chance that players who are FAs get one year extensions across the board. I forget where I read this, but it's a possibility. There is so much unknown, and the Jets have to protect themselves and prepare for any possible scenario that might play out. I think Cromartie is probably on the lower side of the list of main players the Jets have to sign. However, you have to keep him around just in case we cannot reach contract terms with Holmes/Edwards and if we can't get a long term deal with Harris worked out. In this scenario, we would have plenty of money left and can use it to sign guys like Cromartie and Brad Smith. I'm sure the Jets are considering every possible option right now and Tanny is probably ripping his hair out like he was during Hard Knocks. There's no need to cut a player that isn't under contract. You never know what will happen with our other FAs and what priority Cromartie is on Tanny's list. I think it's clear that the Jets will bring him back if they can afford him. Why make the relationship worse by cutting him? Have to keep every option open.
I am afraid your post is incoherent, but it may be merely because you have confused which post of yours I was referring to. I was initially addressing the one where you said something about Tanny's statements only now (meaning recently) making sense when he referred to not making major changes to the roster. I said they have always made sense. Because they have. And again I would hardly say I believe the FO is infallible. In addition to the VG situation I am skeptical of last year's draft picks. That's not the point. I was referring to posters here who have said more or less that Cromartie is gone. That imo has been based on nothing.
Imo you tend to think a player will have perceived value to other teams if you think he has value yourself. If you think he does not have value, unless and until some other team does or says something that suggests they see it differently, you would tend to assume they also see him as having no value. I doubt most FO guys are in the habit of thinking FO guys on other teams are all idiots. So, if the Jets think another team will look at Cro and think they will give something of real value for him, it is more likely than not that the Jet FO would think that because they also see Cro as a valuable player. Which he is. Makes sense to me!
