I'm not thrilled with signing a 35 year old unless he's a kicker or a OG. This is really an overpriced depth signing, though I'll reserve my final judgement until the games start being played.
Here is a copy of the post you made... McGinest and von Oelhoffen will not make as much as Arrington. Both of them combined might not make as much as Arrington. The cap hit you speak of will likely be non-existant. These will not be long contracts, and we'll have to cut them. These will likely be 1-2 year contracts that will expire without us cutting them, in turn generating zero cap charge for the following season. ---- Nowhere does that mention all 3 players combined-- Not to mention, you can't look at a cap hit as "saving money" That is why we didn't cut Penny-- because it was way to expensive to cut him, even though they would have "saved" 3 million on the cap. To me, having dead money against the cap should never be looked at as a savings.
absolutely-- way too much for a 35 year old. This guy is not going to be playing 3 seasons from now, and we are going to have to deal with more dead money.
I have a copy of your message from the other day. Take a look at what you said, and compare it to what you are claiming you said.
How much is he gauranteed? How much 'dead money' will have to be accounted for if he's cut at the end of next season, or the season after that? Can Jetsin2004 come in and break it down for us?
I also said that if they do sign a contract longer than that, it would be for a lower salary. For a very good 3-4 DE, that can easily be cut in the last year of the deal, this is not much money. And if you save money by cutting a player, the dead money against the cap for that one year isn't a big deal. Anyway, I'm done dealing with you. You've already stated that you will never learn anything, you think that you know everything there is to know about football. You have an ego and you're very stubborn, which other people have realized already. No need to waste anymore time.
no-- over 2 mill after 1 year (very likely) and over 1 mil after 2 years. Considering that we just restructured a bunch of contracts, (which ultimatly just provides short term help, with the intention of having a higher number a few years down the line) we will need all the cap space we can get over the next few years. We are really sacraficing the fututre with the restructures, and signing deals like this.
3.2mil gaurenteed- which will be divided over 3 seasons. So if he is cut after one year, its 2 million in dead space- after 2 years, its 1 million.
I can't believe what i'm reading. I would hope that most of you know "something" about football. Kimo is a very good (not great because of his age) signing for us. The 34 defense very rarely gets pressure off of the end positions. The ends are supposed to occupy the tackles so that the linebackers can make plays: shutting down the outside run, being able to collapse in the middle, and showing multiple blitz packages. Vilma MIGHT be moved outside. Besides, since Kimo came from Boise State he has had a tremendous work ethic. Add the fact that he started for the Steelers, and won a Superbowl ring, AND was coached by the great Dick LeBeau. This is a GREAT signing when you include the intangibles.
Petrozza upset with von Olehoffen signing? Petrozza upset with von Olehoffen signing? Jets Sign Von Oelhoffen Added on 03/14/2006 The "new" New York Jets continued the tradition that was started by the previous regime, as they patched their offensive line with yet another 30+ year old castoff. Just if the signings of Chester McGlockton and Steve Martin did not teach them anything, the Gang Green agreed to a 3-year contract with DE Kimo von Oelhoffen, formerly of the Pittsburgh Steelers. :lol: from the front page.
Nice post. Good to know there are at least some solid rookie posters among this influx of spamming noobies.
You are right-- he backed it up with decent facts. I still don't like the signing, because I don't think it will help us in 2-3 years, but he at least made a decent argument for the guy.
