Whether or not I want this guy really depends on what will be left over after cotch and rhodes get their new deals. I agree with your point Alio that we are still only going into year two of mangini's plan. Adalius is going to cost alot of money. I think we might be better off getting one of the premier edge rushers in the draft this year and save our bucks for when we are closer to being a complete team.
Dude i know its the same guy but it has nothing to do with this thread. What if the Patriots would sign Barlow to a huge contract? If it were up to you we should post it in "your" thread as well since it mentions Barlow right?
While I appreciate you agreeing with me, I think you misunderstood me. I think we are just a couple players away now. Mangini's plan has been pushed forward, due to more talent and gelling than he anticipated coming in. This signing would help to make our defense elite, IF we can get a shut down corner through FA, plus a true 3-4 NT and move DRob over to end. Mix in a high-quality RB on offense, and we're ready for extra games next year. (Dominic Rhodes is a FA...)
WTF?!?! People were discussing signing Thomas IF he is not TAGGED by the Ravens. You announced that the Ravens have decided not to TAG him. Where am I not making sense? BTW: I had nothing to do with the other thread, except that I posted in it minutes before you posted this one. So your point is invalid.
He will probably be asking too much...but we know that Tannenbaum will not be spending much on free agents anyway. We might as well go out and get the best player available, since we have the money to spend. I am a big fan of building the team in the draft. However, almost all great teams in the NFL add at least a player or two in free agency.
Okay - I now see what your saying. That is quite a few needs you are talking about though. I don't see how we are one player away at this point. If I were to believe we were one player away - I'd have to label that player as DT not OLB. I believe that until we add a solid DT we really aren't going to have much success in the playoffs. And as just about everyone knows - a solid 3-4 DT is rare. Even if we already had the NT though - to fill the needs of an edge rusher, shut down corner and improve the run-blocking(another requirement to build a playoff contender) through FA wouldn't be feasible if we still wanted to resign cotch and rhodes. I think that we are still on pace for a 3 year plan and having a draft close to this past years is critical to our success in year 3. The only way I think that we are ahead of schedule is that Mangini has gotten the team to forget the 4-12 season. While it is very important to be ahead of schedule in this regard - there literally is no way to accelerate the aquisition of talent beyond the pace we are currently on. Be patient and root for another solid draft - think about adding the "1 guy" next offseason(unless of course a NT becomes available that is).
that thread is about alot of players. you cant expect every member hear to post any barlow, teague, barrett or mccareins related news in "your" (by that i mean the thread you just mentioned) thread. big news deserve their own threads
You seriously just enjoy debating semantics. It has everything to do with the other thread. If we needed a new thread for every different nuance of a discussion it would get out of control.
Ravens won't use franchise tag on Thomas All-Pro will become free agent; team hopes to sign him to long-term deal By Jamison Hensley and Mike Preston Sun Reporters Originally published February 22, 2007, 12:59 PM EST The Ravens have decided not to use the franchise tag on Adalius Thomas and will allow the All-Pro linebacker to become an unrestricted free agent on March 2, general manager Ozzie Newsome said today. Although they chose not to tag Thomas, the Ravens will try to keep him once he hits free agency. "We will continue to have negotiations with Adalius," Newsome said. "I don't know what the market will bear out for him." If the Ravens had used the tag by today's deadline, they could have kept Thomas from becoming a free agent by tendering him a one-year contract worth $7.2 million, which is the average of the five highest-paid linebackers in the league. But the Ravens have rarely used the tag to keep players from free agency -- they've done so only three times in 11 seasons -- because it creates animosity between the player and the team. The lack of significant salary-cap room -- they are approximately $3 million under the cap -- likely played a factor in the Ravens' decision not to use the tag. Now, Thomas will enter the free-agent market where he will rank among the top 10 available players. He is the only starter on the NFL's top-ranked defense to become an unrestricted free agent. Thomas, 29, has become one of the most versatile players in the NFL, having played every position on defense last season. The seven-year veteran ranked third on the Ravens last season with 106 tackles and finished second with 11 sacks. Last season, he recorded a sack or a turnover in 11 of 16 games. Thomas has led all NFL linebackers in sacks (28) since 2004, including 16 in his past 21 games. Several teams are expected to show interest in Thomas, including the San Francisco 49ers, New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns and Green Bay Packers -- all of whom have more salary cap room than the Ravens and can offer Thomas substantially more in a long-term contract. Thomas is likely looking at a contract that includes at least a $12 million signing bonus. Last week, Thomas said he would be open to returning to the Ravens even if he became a free agent. "The market sets itself every year. Hopefully, Baltimore will step up and get the deal done so I can retire a Baltimore Raven," Thomas told ESPN. "But it's still a business. They're going to do what's best for them, and I got to do what is best for me." If Thomas goes elsewhere in free agency, the Ravens would strongly consider re-signing Jarret Johnson, an underrated backup for the Ravens who is set to become a free agent. The Ravens also would likely look at Indianapolis free-agent linebacker Cato June. Thomas reached the Pro Bowl for the second time in his career this past season, his first selection on defense. He earned Pro Bowl recognition as a special teams player after the 2003 season.
I hear you. I don't think we are one player away. We're definitely 3. CB, NT, and RB. It may take another year, but it is quite possible to solve the RB need in the draft, or stick with Leon for the year. NT and CB are critical IMO though. While getting Thomas would be icing, we still need the cake.
we can almost all but consider him a Jet.....im sure the thought crossed his mind that he would like to stay in the 3-4 and he knows that Mangini is an amazing coach...he will be in Green and White next year.... i completely forgot about AT this FA.....it makes perfect sense
The Patriots linebackers were all relatively old at the start of their playoff run, but the key was that they had a pretty young front three. This guy is an animal, and I believe he can last a long time, since speed rushing linebackers don't take the same abuse inside ones do. Not to mention he's in top physical shape and very big, which means his body can generally take that extra beating. Sometimes we have to get past age, guys. You can't always sign a 23 year old speed rusher who sacked the quarterback 85 times and has no history of injuries. It's not even like this is a risk, since he's very proven.
old yes but would be an absolute beat for us next year. i trust tangini to do the right thing they will not overpay for him. if we do infact sign him who is the odd man out at lb?
I'd say Hobson wouldn't be the odd man out, but he'd see more time at inside linebacker, and be moved from outside because he got his sacks and numbers, but he's not going to tear past the edge and sack the quarterback. He's an effective blitzer. Look at what the Browns did in signing Willie McGinest, and then drafting Kamerion Wimbley. Wimbley's become an absolute stud, and A. Thomas may be able to teach B. Thomas a few things the way McGinest taught Wimbley.
There is no odd man out. The more quality linebackers the better for a 3-4. Both B. Thomas and Hobson played real well for us and should be on the team regardless of who is brought in. A rotation at OLB should be made.
I agree in a rotation, but if we're signing A. Thomas to big money, him and Vilma will need to be in there at all times. You can't pay a guy seven million, maybe more a year and have him rotated in.
if only it was that easy if he wants to get paid...he will get it from a crappy team with money(lions) if he wants a championship run with a great coach...he signs with new england or re-signs with baltimore
