I was thinking that too, I wish we could move up in front of the Bills in the 2nd round, and just scare the living shit out of them. They def want Nassib
If we draft any 1st round QB it is likely an indicator that the Jets are chucking the year and rebuilding hard.
If we take ANY QB before the third then we might as well start looking for a new GM and HC now. We have many more needs at this point Trade for a kid like Flynn or bring in a hold the fort guy like Moore and get our QB next draft. Use this draft to build foundation and acquire skilled players.
but if you're rebulding wouldn't you rather wait next year for the can't miss QB prospect? these aren't QBs that i'd want to build around
There are lots of issues with waiting for a year: 1. The QB situation is untenable right now with 3 QB's who aren't likely to start and succeed with the Jets. Nobody has upside at this point and if Sanchez contract was not hanging around the Jets neck they'd probably be releasing him. 2. Idzik may want to take a shot at getting a QB in here this year to jump start the rebuild process. The Jets aren't going to the promised land until they find the QB and he might want to take his first shot right away. 3. The Jets may not be in a position to get the big QB next year even if they wait. If Bridgewater still looks really good going into next year's draft he is probably the 2 pick at the outside. Most of the time you cannot trade for that type of pick because it is very unusual for an NFL team drafting that high to be happy at QB. Michael Vick and RGIII were exceptions because the Chargers didn't think Vick would fit their Marty Ball offense and the Rams already had Sam Bradford who they had huge money tied up in. 4. Marketing is important although you can't let it drive the team. Right now the Jets have nobody to present as the face of the offense. The guy who held that role for the past few seasons is discredited with the fans and the Jets will need to find a new face pretty quickly.
I hope this story isn't true. I'd rather fill in as many holes as possible in this draft and look to bring in a franchise QB next season with most of our holes filled in so any new QB can come in and look to hit the ground running. I would kill to get Teddy Bridgewater on the Jets in 2014. Maybe we should look at trading down or even out of the 1st round by acquiring a 1st rounder for next season which would mean we could possibly send two 2014 1st round picks to move up to select our future franchise QB.
What are the odds that the teams picking one and two next year will be happy at QB? It's impossible to predict who the really bad teams will be from year to year but it's easier to predict who will not be among the worst. AFC East - Patriots, Fins, Jets AFC North - Ravens, Bengals, Steelers AFC South - Colts, Texans AFC West - Broncos NFC East - Giants, Redskins, Cowboys NFC North - Packers, Bears, Vikings NFC South - Falcons, Saints, Panthers, Bucs NFC West - 49ers, Seahawks, Rams So that leaves Bills, Browns, Jaguars, Titans, Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers, Eagles, Lions and Cardinals as the field for the 1 and 2 picks next year. Which of those teams would trade a pick that would turn into a franchise QB? Maybe the Lions? Nobody else is going to trade the pick if they suck next year because they're all going to be looking for that QB to stop the sucking.
I like his upside: Tony Romo with grit and leadership. Still, he has some glaring holes in his game, didn't exactly impress during the Senior Bowl and I don't see him as a first season starter.
I think #3 is the biggest one. Everyone here Im sure would be okay with a horrible season and then drafting Bridgewater, but no one can plan that out even if the Jets actually wanted to do that. Is it worth passing on a QB the Jets potentially like for a chance at a better QB prospect? As much as I want us to pass on QB this year and draft Bridgewater next year, I have a hard time seeing that actually becoming reality. There's just too many variables. I hate to say this, but I dont see how we are not grouped into that list of teams that are possibilities for a top 5 draft pick. Unless we have a great offseason (meaning getting at least 4 quality starters and having a huge increase in play at QB) I would say the Eagles, Browns, Chargers and Chiefs are better than us and maybe even the Bills. We could lose Revis and Landry along with having to have 3 new LB's start next year on the defensive side. Westoff is gone so the possibility of getting worse on ST's is there. Offense is still a mess... Hard to go down from where they are because its pretty much rock bottom, but I dont see huge improvements happening. Add in that we are extremely tight to the cap and have a pretty rough schedule next year and I have a hard time picturing us being significantly better than last year. Aside from that I think your argument is extremely valid though. Why would anyone give up such a premium pick? Especially if they have a need at QB which is likely.... Our best and probably only chance of getting Bridgewater is by owning that #1 or #2 pick ourselves.
yeah i guess you guys are right. i'm a diehard fan and sometimes i forget we went 6-10 because it sounds like sometimes we went 0-16 so i just expect us to be horrible next season. in full honesty, i've never been against drafting geno smith at 9. although this sounds surprising, he wouldn't come into a terrible situation. our o-line is above average, our defense is pretty good, and our WRs would be holmes, kerley, hill/edwards. thats not horrible if you get a good RB
Honestly, if Geno fell to 9, it might be in our best interest to draft him... I certainly don't love him, but at 9 he presents solid value and is a good prospect. Depending on how this team feels about the other QB prospects, Geno might be our best chance to turn this franchise around if a solid supporting cast is formed around him. I say this because of the points Bradway made- mainly the fact that the hopes of being in a position to draft Bridgewater are that of a pipe dream. Once again Ill say this- this QB class gets absolutely shit on, but odds are there are 1 or 2 players that turn into good starter. Joe Flacco, Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Andy Dalton, Drew Brees, Colin Kaepernick where never touted as elite cant miss prospects yet they have turned into good or great players. If this organization was focused on building a franchise around a QB I think we could find a franchise QB in this class.
I could see the Jets getting a top 5 pick maybe but I think top 2 is not going to happen. Rex's defense is too good for the team to totally collapse. The offense was basically handing the other team games this year and the linebackers were subpar and Rex's schemes still kept the Jets in enough games to go 6-10. I'm guessing 4 to 6 wins is the floor next year also and that won't be good for Bridgewater if he still looks the way he does now.
The Jets, as do most teams, rarely tell what's really on their minds about who they are interested in. I would doubt that they would take him before the third round, if at all.
Good word. Anyway, I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Jets would be very stupid if they draft a QB without having a good situation to walk into. They need to fill the holes at the rest of the offensive positions before they think QB.
It's very rare for a team to be in a position to draft the top QB in the draft and have an ideal situation to come into. The reason you're in that position is because you have many holes. If they feel like Geno Smith is going to be the guy that is going to take the team to the next level with the pieces around him, you don't pass on him.
In the, albeit, limited video I've seen on Nassib, he reminds me a bit of Sanchez with a stronger arm. Misses open receivers, doesn't always set his feet, mechanics tend to disintegrate when under pressure, etc.
Its unlikely that Geno falls, but Gio recently has been getting ranked behind a couple RBs. On NFL.com he's been rated like the 3rd or 4th best RB in the draft in a couple articles.
