I wonder why we even pay the coaches, since apparently they have zero responsibility for anything. They don't have to prepare the teams or identify problems or players. They have no duty to adjust to the opposing team, no duty to have good gameplans or take advantage of the other team's weaknesses at all. Unfortunately the other team's coaches don't hold the same philosophy. If we run a spread against Rob Ryan he just tells his players to kill Favre, and brings the pressure. Unless of course the argument is the players just suddenly decided the plays to run and then ran them, and that Rob Ryan had no role in this whatsoever. It's kinda like how Herm is a great coach, it's just his players don't understand how to play their gaps.
You're correct But.... ....the play calling put the team in such bad situations that those plays which on a normal Sunday are minimal were exaggerated in importance. It's the Play calling and lack of adjustments that kept this team from scoring.
We are losing the turnover battle. Farve can't keep throwing INTs regardless of where they are on the field.
can anyone remember one instance where this team under mangini came out of halftime and made the adjustments to either put a close game away or comeback in a game that was close to being a blowout.i don't he prepares for a game like there's no one coaching the other team and they're not gonna adjust to what he's doing.it seems he is lways the second best coach in the stadium when it comes time to gametime adjustment.imo
"Dink and Dunk" means taking what's open. It's not as though the CS sits there and designs plays with all routes under five yards. This is ridiculous. Most plays have a deep option. If they don't throw it, then either: -QB is under pressure -Deep option not open -QB doesn't see the deep option as open -QB just decides to go somewhere else. I don't think that Brian Schottenheimer and Eric Mangini are sitting in the film room saying: "Hey Brett, I know Keller is usually wide open down the seam...but don't throw it. Just take the five yard out to Coles." You guys are ridiculous with this stuff. NFL Players have to make plays. THESE players did not. THAT is why you lost.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Not that I care, but I just don't like seeing someone misinform others so much.
What'd he say thats so wrong? And this whole board is full of misinformation and speculation...just the fact that so many people are so totally blaming the coaching staff is complete and utter bullshit and a total simplification of a very complicated game.
Just because people are laying some responsibility of the loss on the CS doesn't mean they are putting the loss solely on the CS. What is so wrong with pointing out issues with coaching if you see them and back them up with some logic?
Originally Posted by supersonic We are losing the turnover battle. Farve can't keep throwing INTs regardless of where they are on the field. I mentioned this in another thread. Other than the Cardinal game the Jets are a -9 in the turnover battle. There is no way that you are going to consistently win if you're averaging almost two TO's a game more than your oponent.
Raiders are hellbent on defending pass - and the Jets offense calls pass. Not even play fake. Just vanilla pass. Are you expecting the Jets players to actually succeed under that circumstances?
For Mangini, this loss was about lack of execution, not strategy. The team failed to execute on offense and defense.... too many times, with too many penalties, and with too many turnovers. After execution, penalties and turnovers, they didn't give themselves a chance in hell to win the game. I want to see the NYJs OL and DL dominate throughout the game, then we can talk about strategic nuances. Right now, we are kicking nobody's ass. Even the Cards had an historic second half offensively on us. This team doesn't show a winning mentality, or a killer instinct. They have some pride and some persistence but they are not nearly savage enough at the line of scrimmage. I'm not talking about dirty playing; it has to do with blocking and tackling without making friends.
It wasnt terrible we just executed poorly. An Chris baker trips over his own feet or we win that shitfest.
dude watch the first ten minutes again...everything was a 3 step drop and an immediate release...Mangini thought hed be cute and pick up LBs in coverage because the Raider CBs are good....all we had to do is shove the ball down their throat
Again, this is not an either/or choice here. No one is saying the players executed well. The point is that the CS has a role in how the players play. They are not just observing the game the same way the fans do. This is the third year of the Mangini era. Did they go into it thinking they had players who did not have a killer instinct, or more precisely could not be taught to play with a killer instinct? Even were that true I would lay THAT on the CS as well. If the CS is not making a difference, and it is mostly about the players, then perhaps the Jets need a CS who can make a difference.
