Jets picked to go 5-11

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  1. Innocenti

    Innocenti Active Member

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    "vegas lines are uncanny in the way they predict outcomes"
     
  2. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    It's in the results of the games, and events, and the success of the industry. Even the lines of games and score O/U totals are so accurate that if they weren't they'd go out of business. Sports betting is a collosal industry
    The lines are the mean statistical numbers that create the industry. There is no better science out there that's better at predicting outcomes. Show me if it's not. That bet coincides with the odds to win a division, conference, and SB in the ratings of the teams. There's some long odds on those bets. I would go with that number long before the number of some hack's article. You would think the o/u bet would be a fairly easy bet. Look up the outcomes.
    If I could bet that writer on his number I'd bet him right now just based on the 7.5 number. There might be a select few that beat the odds, they're not perfect, but those lines are damn near unbeatable in the long term. Show me a better predictor or tell me what's gonna happen.
     
  3. PabloJa

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    Sorry, you're totally right, he's from Penn State, not BYU.
     
  4. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    Still doesn't change the fact that we haven't had a rookie / first year NYJ HC turn in a losing season since Kotite. Expectations are high, and rightfully so.
     
  5. NYJetster

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    Let's give this some context: Hackenberg played behind an offensive line last year that allowed more than three sacks per game (122nd in the country).

    Penn State's running game was ranked 120th in yards per game, so opponents were able to defend with two deep safeties over the top on pretty much every down.

    So yeah, after looking like a world-beater in his freshman year, he did struggle last year, but to simply dismiss him as being "pretty bad" is a misleading over-simplification.

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  6. JetsFan

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    If Geno starts all season we will be 5-6 wins. If Fitz starts and can be as good as he was last season, we will go at least 9-10 win and playoffs.
     
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  7. zace

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    Have you seen any of training camp? Not being a smart ass, but seriously, fitz isnt taking us anywhere special.

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  8. LeonNYJ

    LeonNYJ Well-Known Member

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    If everything clicks, they can go 10-6. However, I think 8-8 is realistic.
     
  9. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Well-Known Member

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    It all depends on how Geno plays the first few games. He either needs to play well enough to keep the Jets in games, or poorly enough to make starting Fitz and obvious decision.
     
  10. juss

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    No ones rating Geno, QBs take time, he'll improve this year and get the job done. He might not be outstanding, but he'll learn from good coaching and do enough to win games. He won't need to put tonnes of yards or TDs up to win with our defence.
     
  11. Acad23

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    5-11?

    I'm sorry. I see too much talent on this team.

    ...and I'm not even talking about the players.
     
  12. Toronto's Biggest

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    Not that any of these predictions or ratings matter but EA jumped in with their 2 cents. Its surprising how far off it is with them predicting a team overall at 76. Some of the ratings for our star players seem to be where they should be like Revis at 97, Sheldon at 91, Snacks at 88 and Wilk at 96 which makes you wonder how lowly the rest of the team must have been rated to pull the rating down that far.

    http://o.ea.com/41279

    Again it doesn't matter because the players are the ones who determine the outcome not writers or video game developers but it is comical to see. The only silver lining to this is the last time the team was predicted to be this terrible they pulled out an 8-8 season and had a lot of these blowhards eating crow during the season
     
  13. LogeSection2RowJ

    LogeSection2RowJ Well-Known Member

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    Our best scenario is Geno taking a leap forward. I only want to to see Fitz if Geno gets banged up. If our future depends on Fitz all season and Petty developing for the future, we're in trouble.

    Not saying Geno will be our answer, but count me as a non-Geno-hater. I think he can do it if we protect him. It's year 3, and he deserves this season.
     
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  14. LogeSection2RowJ

    LogeSection2RowJ Well-Known Member

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    Yawn.

    Dolphins picked higher than us again? What a f*cking total surprise.
     
  15. AugustWest

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    Why is that a surprise?

    Dolphins have a legitimate NFL QB.
     
  16. RexontheBeach

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    I believe we should see a different Geno... The previous regime largely neglected the offensive side of the ball, either letting things go unnoticed or praising the defense for the offensive miscues. It seems like this staff takes a stance from both sides. Bowles has noted that the offense has done well, but have not faced the full defensive playbook. This should encourage Geno to reach beyond what is acceptable by the CS and prove his worth as a QB. During the Rex era it felt like everything was revolving around how the defense did. It's relieving to see a coach who acknowledges how both sides of the ball perform. The past couple of years the offense has been in the shadows of the defense, this year is not the case, so it seems.
     
  17. Jetsruby

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    5-11 is low, but I don't think this defense will be incredibly good. Cromartie is overrated and the safety position is in great question. Revis has one side locked down, but overall I think this defense falls around #8 or #9 best defense.

    What in the world is cromartie doing here?! Like he did in San Diego vs. Jets when he avoided Shonn Greene, he completely avoided trying to tackle Lynch.

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  18. Johnny "Lam" Jones

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    com'n people we got Chan Gailey as OC and he won with a lower rated QB than Smith with the Steelers (Mike Tomczak 68.9 lifetime qb rating)

    if the Jets don't make the playoffs and win at LEAST 10 games this season I will consider it a failed season.

    the jets had EXACTLY 13 turnovers for the whole season, whats up with that.

    The Jets will get more this season. :)

    45 sacks last season. 60 this season.

    The Jet d will be in the top 5.

    Lam
     
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  19. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    You're worried about Cromartie's impact on our run defense? Run defense is by far the least of our concerns.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

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    Walter Football is fucking retarded.

    You go 4-12..

    Then add Brandon Marshall, Mevi$, and Crobabymamamartie, and improve by ...One Game?

    Rex must surely be a HoF coach already...
    Defense alone merits 8-8.

    Gailey, one win. 9-7.

    Any growth at the QB position, is 10 wins and a playoff spot.

    Oh, and BTW, did Walter football count the first game against the Cheatriots with Buck Frady just returning to live action, and facing the most dominant DL in football?
     

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