Jets pick 7th in 2025 draft!

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  1. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    I feel you both. It's just, there are so many needs. With the watered down "1st round talent" this year it would make sense to get as much draft capital as you can. The organization isn't known for trading back so I am not expecting them to, it's simply I wish they would.
     
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    For what it’s worth the Jets actually traded back the last 2 drafts.

    I think you stay put unless there’s a nice big offer
     
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    Where have you been? They've been starting over since Woody fired Coach Saleh.

    The organization has no intention of doing anything serious this year in terms of winning. That said they're not going to be bad enough to be anywhere near the top of the draft in 2026.

    Middle of the pack is my guess right now.

    You're entitled to your opinion I'm not changing your mind I'm not going to try.

    My opinion is OT can be found elsewhere for effs sake they drafted one in round 1 last year. We have Wilson, we have Hall, we drafted a OT in round 1 last year now go get the young QB to go with them.

    Everything I'm reading/hearing about Shedeur played behind a bad o-line yet still projected to be a high first round pick QB that's overcoming adversity. Not elite athletically BUT excellent in the pocket that's what we need. Sounds like this guy may be another Chad Pennington.

    And yes his father is one of the greatest NFL players to ever play that's a part of it too.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEAAAASE draft Shedeur, Jets.

     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I dont think Shadeur is going to happen, but it is curious that they locked up Lazard and appeared to smokescreen about running back and QB with their Breece Hall & Justin Fields comments.

    1) If they wanted to draft a WR they would've just cut Lazard.
    2) I think they are trying to get someone to fall to them

    teams think the Jets are happy with Fields and want Jeanty. they trade up or select him first, Shaduer is a jet
     
  5. Jets79

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    Honestly, I have no idea what they are thinking for draft day…we always do some stupid shit historically, and now with two new guys in the seats at HC and GM, there is literally no track record to look back on.

    So this draft is a total crapshoot in terms of trying to predict what we will do.

    However, I would be a bit surprised if we used the 7 on QB as we just signed Fields who is still young. Not that it’s impossible say if Sanders falls to us, but I’d be surprised…signing Fields as a stopgap feels more like freeing up the 7th overall to use on the best combo of BPA/Need, whether that’s a RT, DT, DE, or TE (I’d say WR is a huge need but I’m not hearing about a lot of highly touted top ten worthy WRs outside of the one kid who won’t be there at 7). That just feels like the play here…give Fields a shot, build the team, and then try QB next year if Fields doesn’t show enough.

    We’ll see…
     
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  6. Brook!

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    A good read on The Athetic today. It is behind a paywall but it is too long to copy paste but I will copy paste as much as I can. Posting the link for folks who have subscription.

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6270586/2025/04/11/new-york-jets-day-2-3-draft-targets/

    As the NFL Draft draws closer, consensus — right or wrong — tends to form around the teams picking early. The Jets are in a good position at No. 7, in a place to land a potential blue-chip prospect at a position of need (right tackle, wide receiver, tight end and defensive tackle).

    As such, the Jets — in expert mock drafts and other forms of draft-season speculation — have been most often tied to five first-round prospects in particular: Missouri offensive tackle Armand Membou, Penn State tight end Tyler Warren, Michigan defensive tackle Mason Graham, Arizona wide receiver Tetairoa McMillan and Georgia edge rusher Jalon Walker. (Not to mention the recent rumors tying them to running back Ashton Jeanty.)

    Not all of those players will be available at 7, but it is likely at least a few of them will be. How the Jets choose among that group will, obviously, be dictated by their board. Head coach Aaron Glenn and general manager Darren Mougey will prioritize (cliché alert!) picking the best player available.
    “That’s what we always want to do, get the best player,” Glenn said. “And hopefully, that player can fit a need for us.”

    But the Jets don’t necessarily need to force picking any of those players in particular to fill a need, especially since this is a draft that’s considered strong in the middle rounds. In light of Dane Brugler’s The Beast dropping this week, I wanted to highlight the leading candidates as well as pick out some alternative options for the Jets to consider at those five positions of need, the idea being that if the Jets don’t address a particular need in the first round, they can still hind help later in the draft.

    Armand Membou, OT, Missouri

    Who he is: Membou is an athletically gifted tackle prospect who tested through the roof at the NFL Combine and is coming off a dominant 2024 season during which he didn’t allow any sacks or QB hits. He’s only 21 and is considered by some to be more of a project than, say, LSU’s Will Campbell, but Membou has the tools to become a Pro Bowl-caliber player at either tackle or guard. Brugler has Membou ranked seventh overall and second (behind Campbell) among tackle prospects.

    Why the Jets need him: The Jets have four out of five spots on the offensive line locked in — and all four players are under 30 — but right tackle remains a hole. They signed Chukwuma Okorafor as a free agent but he’s better served to be a swing backup. Also of note: Both left guard John Simpson and right guard Alijah Vera-Tucker are set to be free agents in 2026.

    Alternatives

    Jonah Savaiinaea,
    Arizona (No. 4 G, No. 55 overall): Like Membou, Savaiinaea offers the versatility to play either guard or tackle in the NFL. He played right tackle, left tackle and right guard at various points at Arizona. He’s physically imposing with strength and length and should be there in the second round. Brugler thinks he can be a rookie starter.

    Ozzy Trapilo, Boston College (No. 7 OT, No. 77 overall): He’s towering (6-foot-8) and played right tackle the last two years at Boston College. He can be a swing tackle to start and Brugler thinks he has enough talent to push to start at right tackle as a rookie. He allowed two sacks and one QB hit in 2024. Brugler has him as a third-round prospect.

    Chase Lundt, UConn (No. 10 OT): Another towering prospect (6-7), he was a four-year starter at right tackle in college and allowed zero sacks and one QB hit in 2024. He projects as a fourth-round pick and initially can play swing tackle while pushing to start.

    Tyler Warren, TE, Penn State

    Who he is: The consensus top tight end prospect in this draft class, Warren is not graded quite as highly as Brock Bowers was last year — and, remember, the Jets were heavily tied to Bowers before picking Olu Fashanu — but few would fault the Jets for picking Warren in the first round. He’d be a top target for Justin Fields and he’s solid in protection too. Brugler has him graded eighth overall.

    Why the Jets need him: The Jets have been seeking production at tight end since the Dustin Keller days. Tyler Conklin was solid the last two years but signed with the Chargers as a free agent, leaving the Jets with just Jeremy Ruckert (underwhelming through three seasons) and free-agent signee Stone Smartt … who the Chargers let walk so they could sign Conklin. This might be the weakest position group on the roster.

    Alternatives

    Mason Taylor, LSU (No. 3 TE, No. 33 overall): There’s a chance he sneaks into the late first round, but if not Taylor would be a top potential target for the Jets in the second round. He’s a starter-level talent who would contribute as a pass-catcher right away while developing as a blocker. Brugler compared him to Hunter Henry.

    Elijah Arroyo, Miami (No. 4 TE, No. 41 overall): He brings a vertical element that the Jets are currently lacking in their passing game outside of Garrett Wilson. As Brugler wrote, Arroyo had a greater percentage of catches go for 20-plus yards (34.3 percent) than Bowers did in his last year at Georgia (23.2 percent). Arroyo can make plays after the catch, catches everything (one career drop) and competes as a blocker too.

    Harold Fannin Jr., Bowling Green (No. 6 TE, No. 82 overall): He’s an intriguing fit for a Jets team that will likely be run-heavy as long as Fields is the quarterback. Fannin is not especially fast (4.71 40) but has impressive “straight line explosiveness,” per Brugler, who also wrote that he’s skilled at blocking as a puller on sweeps/pitches. He also was highly productive: 117 catches, 1,555 yards and 10 touchdowns in 2024.
     
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    Mason Graham, DT, Michigan

    Who he is: The top defensive tackle prospect in this class that most have projected to be picked before the Jets have a shot at him. Brugler called him a “leverage monster” who “skillfully destroys blocks” and ranked him fourth overall in this draft class.
    Why the Jets need him: The Jets’ defensive line was severely lacking for depth last season, especially at defensive tackle next to Quinnen Williams. This offseason they signed some rotational players (Derrick Nnadi, Byron Cowart, Jay Tufele) but none should be full-time starters. Graham would be a massive upgrade.

    Alternatives

    Darius Alexander, Toledo (No. 7 DT, No. 61 overall): The most talented defensive tackle Quinnen Williams has played with is probably Leonard Williams — and Brugler compares Alexander to Williams. Alexander brought juice as both a run-stopper and pass-rusher in 2024, grading as the third-best run stopping defensive tackle by PFF and ranking sixth in total pressures.

    Joshua Farmer, Florida State (No. 10 DT, No. 76 overall): The Jets could use some pass-rushing juice next to Williams — all of their current options are more focused on run-stopping — and Brugler wrote that Farmer has “promising pass rushing tools.” He had nine sacks and 15 tackles for loss combined the last two years.

    Omarr Norman-Lott, Tennessee (No. 15 DT): Brugler called him an “explosive disruptor” and pegged him as a third/fourth round prospect. Norman-Lott played a part-time role last year but he was highly productive, leading all FBS interior linemen in pass-rush win rate.

    Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona

    Who he is: There are mixed opinions on him but McMillan’s skills are undeniable and he should be viewed as the top wide receiver in this class — which he is by Brugler, who ranks him 12th overall. McMillan has the ability to win on 50/50 balls and an impressive highlight reel of acrobatic catches. He was utterly dominant at Arizona, even when they were struggling around him.

    Why the Jets need him: The Jets’ wide receiver room outside of Garrett Wilson isn’t especially inspiring. They signed Josh Reynolds and retained Allen Lazard (on a pay cut) but both are better suited as No. 3 wide receivers than as No. 2 options. Malachi Corley, a third-round pick last year, showed next to nothing as a rookie.

    Alternatives

    Jaylin Noel,
    Iowa State (No. 5 WR, No. 42 overall): The Jets need to add some explosiveness in the passing game and Noel brings that in spades, though he is a bit undersized (5-10). Brugler wrote he has “stickum” hands and is “very quarterback friendly” because of his hands and versatility. Brugler compared him to Christian Kirk.

    Jack Bech, TCU (No. 9 WR, No. 72 overall): Hard-working technician who will be ready to play, and contribute, right away as both a pass-catcher and blocker — crucial in what will be a run-heavy offense. He can play inside and outside and Brugler compared him to Puka Nacua.
    Kyle Williams, Washington State (No. 12 WR, No. 91 overall): He’s not huge (5-10, 190) but Brugler lauds his ability to “accelerate to top gear rapidly and create catchable windows for his quarterback.”

    Jalon Walker, edge, Georgia

    Who he is: The second-best edge prospect (behind Abdul Carter) who has the versatility to also play off-ball linebacker, and thus be used as a chess piece for a creative defensive coordinator. Draft projections have Walker going anywhere from the top five to later in the first round.
    Why the Jets need him: The Jets have two solid defensive ends in Jermaine Johnson and Will McDonald, but Johnson is coming off a torn Achilles, McDonald struggles in non-passing situations and the Jets are severely lacking for depth at pass rusher. The top backups as of now are Micheal Clemons, Rashad Weaver and Eric Watts.

    Alternatives

    Jordan Burch
    , Oregon (No. 10 EDGE, No. 52 overall): One of the biggest mistakes Joe Douglas ever made was trading away John Franklin-Myers. Well, Brugler compares Burch to Franklin-Myers because of his ability to line up both inside and out on the defensive line. He had 8.5 sacks and 11 tackles for loss in 2024.

    Oluwafemi Oladejo, UCLA (No. 13 EDGE, No. 64 overall): Like Walker, Oladejo has experience both as an off-ball linebacker and an edge rusher. He started out as an inside linebacker before making the transition to the edge, where he managed 13.5 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks last season. Brugler wrote he has three-down potential.
     
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    I'm just going to put it out there, as some have already said. Corley is about as big a disappointment as I've seen drafted by this team in a while. Especially considering ALL the hoopla about being "YAC King" etc., yada yada. A corner, dropping the ball before the goal line on an interception, would be something I could "live with." Not a f'n wide receiver. Hell, it would have been his first TD as a pro! You'd think you would have had to pry the ball from his hands seeing how they typically have their first TD ball taken off the field and labeled. He just threw the ball away. Unreal.

    This kid better make a leap so huge that it feels like we just drafted him all over again. There are wasted picks in this league and then there are WASTED picks. Corley is the latter at this point.
     
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    I’m with you on this…that play bugged the SHIT out of me. I get some people say ok whatever, rookie mistake, etc.

    I just can’t get past it.

    To me, it is SO beyond STUPID that I just can’t take it…hold on to the fucking ball you fucking idiot

    It’s worse than like a normal fumble because it shows such a lack of attention or football acumen or whatever you want to call it…it’s a dumbass mistake that should NEVER happen

    Honestly I would’ve been fine with cutting his ass right after the game…make a fucking example that we WON’T tolerate stupid shit on this team. We will be fucking disciplined. We will pay attention.

    Man…seriously I STILL can’t get past it
     
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    I agree. All these podcasts seem to "know" how the jets will draft, but does anyone really know?
    Just glad that Douglas is gone. Terrible first round picks in Zach Wilson and McDonald.
    I'm still shocked he had 2 months to prepare for draft and took McDonald at 15, when everyone else had him as 2nd rounder.
     
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    Yeah…I had really high hopes for JD when he was hired

    1. I loved his resume…spent time at both Philly and Baltimore, two of the best run operations/front offices in the league who seem to always produce consistently good results and are legit year in year out Super Bowl contenders…I thought he came from the right spots

    2. I loved his team building strategy … he didn’t waste high draft picks on non-premium positions like our former GMs did…he said he wanted to emphasize building both lines, etc. I thought his strategy was solid

    Unfortunately, a strategy is a direction or a template. It provides the foundation. But even the best STRATEGY will fail if you don’t execute on the TACTICS, and that’s where JD blew it … multiple times.

    He invested plenty of picks and free agent signings on OL and yet our OL sucked balls for most of his tenure. He managed to build a very good DL working with a good defensive coach in Saleh, but then he dismantled it and didn’t sustain it…we had pretty decent DTs next to Q in guys like Rankins and Jefferson…he could have kept them instead of thinking he could replace them with scrubs. Of course the worst thing and the one that really got him fired because it snowballed into more bad decisions, was drafting Zach instead of trading down or taking a better positional player. I totally understand the thinking on the pick…we desperately needed a real QB, but its his job to understand that wishing Zach to be a franchise QB doesn’t make it so…he should have known even then that Zach was not the real deal…the school, the competition, the COVID year, etc., all pointed to fools gold with Zach. It was his job to know.

    So unfortunately for us, he failed. He had 6 years to get it right and failed miserably.

    I have no idea about this Mooge guy…he may turn out to be the right answer after years of trying, or (probably more likely) he may turn out to be yet another in a long line of disgusting Jets GMs who never should have been hired in the first place.

    We’ll see…I’ve come to the place with this team of hoping for the best but sure as shit expecting and preparing for the worst
     
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    I want to call it "trying to be a showboat but failing big time" which has nothing to do with acumen and is ten times worse than a lack of attention.
     
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    This is a MASSIVE problem with these players, especially over the last 10 or 15 years. So fucking worried about showboating. A kid gets a sack, acts like he just broke the all time sack record. WR gets a TD acts like he just shattered Jerry Rice's records. I'm DONE with this bullshit. Wish they would have cut that fool after the game. Not that it'll matter, that kid won't be in the league in 2 years. Stupidity like that has a way of destroying a career. Personally, I don't want him taking up a roster spot. What a waste...
     
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    thanks for posting Brook but I honestly think this is flawed logic by Rosenblatt the author.

    He’s basing everything on mock drafts and extrapolating those as positions of need for round 2/3. But the whole point of mock drafts are to look at team needs in the first place. It doesn’t mean the Jets have interest in these players or even if they view those as positions of need at all!



    A better article would be to write about THE players the Jets have actually met with. The Jets have had visits with multiple potential day 2/3 prospects.

    one such prospect is Jalen Milroe. The Jets have visited with him a couple times and scouted him hard.

    to write an article about Jets potential day 2 or 3 picks and not mention their strong interest in a QB… from Alabama… is low quality journalism IMO
     
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    IMO there are some mis conceptions regarding the acquisition of Justin Fields as it relates to the draft. Some think they will not draft a QB period. I disagree.
    Yes, I'm convinced the HC and GM fully believe JF can be the long-term solution at QB, and that he has plenty of untapped potential that they can help develop. As such they will try to surround him with sufficient weapons to help him achieve his potential.
    However, they also know there is risk with that approach, and they will keep all options open. Just because we have Fields does not mean the continuing search for a Franchise QB has ended. They will in all probabilities use the first two rounds with "start now" talent, most likely in the offensive side of the ball, but with the third pick and on all options are on the table, starting with a QB.
    In fact, I'm convinced they have identified a couple of sleepers with raw potential they are eyeing and interviewing that could be targeted in the later rounds.
    Above all, I think they are more than willing to accept reasonable offers to move down more than once if the opportunity arises and leverage the rich talent available in the heart of the draft. With Atlanta, New Orleans and Pittsburgh in flux for a QB, a trade option might become a reality. This might turn out to be an exciting draft for us. Can't wait.
     

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