Between Zach and Rodgers I think the Jets have had enough QB drama the last couple of years. They will steer far away from Sanders. They have gaping holes at other positions and I think that’s where the #7 pick is spent - if Graham is there he will be the pick. If not it’s a trade down or OT/TE. The Jets may take a stab at a QB later but I think their plan is to go all in on a QB in 2026 assuming Fields treads water.
for me that would be the WORST thing they can do. draft an OT and lets go play some ball. see what this team that was so lauded 2 years ago still has left. if nothing then its probably time to start over. im not doing that, giving up a ton of picks for a qb who i think will be mediocre at best but have all the silliness and hype that his name brings. rodgers was a cancer, he got cut out and thats addition by subtraction. fields is the guy for this season, if not then we have a serviceable backup in taylor.
his size doesnt worry me as much as his inability to see and move. he was a check down king at colorado who got sacked a ton and got beat up alot. tough enough, probably. but he seems like a journeyman to me.
I might have a very simplistic approach but the leadership did not sign JF for 40M if they didn’t think he has some further upper potential to go and could even be the QB for the future. But as a minimum they feel he is our best option for the next year, hopefully more. As such the biggest improvement to the team this year is to draft as much starting talent around him to give not just him but the defense every chance. So no but hell no to a QB on the first two rounds, and under no circumstances move up and further weaken our draft status. I will be extremely happy with three full time starters be it OL, TE, DL, WR and CB. Give out rookie QB a chance to show something this year, give Fields a chance to show what he can do as a full time starter behind a good line and a strong running game, and forget playing drafting games on a weak QBs class. Next year might be a totally different story. Start with the trenches and work from there.
I'm sold on Tyler Warren as the pick at 7. I'm also sold on Membue as the pick at 7. I'm also sold on trading down in the 1st round to get extra picks. I'm even sold on picking Dart at 7, although I don't think it's a good idea, but what do I know?! When it comes to these decisions, I'm like most fans on these boards in that I'm a back-seat driver. We don't have the info that the Jets front office has and nobody know how successful any of these players will actually be. How many teams passed over Mahomes? Also, many teams wanted to draft Zach Wilson. The draft is a crap shoot, but some GMs are better than others. Someone should do a statistical analysis to rate GMs on their drafting results.
Agree completely except CB. We gave a sizable contract to Stephens and already have Sauce. We need to invest in other positions. The biggest need now is a TE and weapons in general. Rodgers had two excellent weapons last year, two #1 1000 yard WRs in GW and Adams. Losing Adams' production is a massive downgrade. We need another weapon. Looking in the draft the best weapon available is Tyler Warren. Even though he is no Bowers, who should have been a top 5-10 pick, he might still be a decent top 15 pick. In this draft a true top 10 pick may not be available to us as there is only like 4-5 players I would normally put in that category. So, we will end up with what normally is a top 15-20 guy either way. Warren is in that category and he does address our biggest need, so for now I think he makes the most sense if we stay at 7 and one of these 4 guys does not slide to us. Alternatively we pick an OT, and then probably a WR in round 2. It's a bit more of a gamble as far as finding a reliable weapon for Fields. I would feel a lot better with GW and Warren as the weapons, and a round 2 OT, but would not oppose the opposite approach. It's just that I see a lot of good GMs finding good OL players outside of the 1st round, and there isn't really a top OT prospect like Olu or Alt in this year's draft. Plus lack of weapons we have outside of GW is really astounding. Even Hall was really bad last year. We just need someone else really good I feel like in that area, and for the lack of better options I am currently in Tyler Warren camp.
I don't think it's simplistic at all. Too many people try to make waaayyyy too much out of this crap. It's FOOTBALL folks. Pretty damn easy. I happen to agree with your assessment on Fields. If I'm Aaron Glenn and Moog (just can't get that spelling yet), I took a look at the landscape, beginning of FA, and made a couple of decisions. The first key was to decide if the draft QB's were an option. This QB draft STINKS! MOST people I talk to, articles I read etc. have these two without a 1st round grade. Doesn't matter where they land below that, they aren't 1st round talents and sure as heck not top 5. The FA QB market began to solidify quickly. Stafford re-signed quickly, we knew Darnold was never coming back. That left Fields. I do agree, they didn't throw $40million at Fields to draft one of these lesser QB's. As I've said many times in different threads, they're giving a shot to Fields to see if he's "gotten it" yet. If not, the pieces they add in this draft will benefit the QB they draft next year. If Fields "hits" it's all a moot point. Quite simple if you ask me. Unless, of course, you want to sit around and waste time talking yourself "in" to one of these two QB's. Then things get complicated quickly.
Pretty much my view as well I am not high on Fields at all…I just don’t think he’s very good, and despite him winning a few games last year with the Steelers, 6 decent games doesn’t do much for me…I see similar flaws to what I saw in Zach…can’t read the field well and make decisions fast enough…he may end up better than Zach because he’s more athletic, so he can break off runs better than Zach did, and he may be able to move around and try and find WRs on broken plays, but he’s not a good QB. On top of that, our staff is a total crapshoot…Glenn and the new OC may turn out to be good coaches, but it’s also just as likely that they don’t, like all the other rookie defensive HCs and rookie OCs we’ve tried. I probably would have felt better about it had we hired Kingsbury as HC, as he has a track record of working with this type of QB, or even McCarthy, who at least knows offense. All that being said, I do also agree that Fields was, for us, likely the best option out there. There are no great draft prospects this year, so overdrafting a QB now when there should be a better class next year isn’t a great way to go. We could have kept Rodgers I guess, but honestly with a new coaching staff, that didn’t feel like a good fit for either the new coaches or for AR himself, and that’s not even considering the cap implications. So I get letting Rodgers go. After that, free agency was slim this year…despite the media talk, none of Carr, Stafford, Cousins, etc. were ever really available (and I would have been PISSED if they had gone after Cousins…fuck him for how he used and played us and then was so happy to share that). So we were looking at the list of guys like Fields, Winston, Russ, etc. Not a very inspiring list at all, and of those, I’m fine with taking a flier on Fields due to being younger and at least having a chance of some upside…may not be a very big chance in my mind, but it’s better than Winston or Russ. So I’m good with it as I see it as the best of a bunch of pretty poor options. And who knows, maybe playing with GW again lights a spark…
I don’t disagree in concept with your approach. A couple of comments. TE is a must, so is OL. I’m uncertain how that is going to play out for the first pick. It’s very board dependent. Also that is the case if a stud DL drops to us with the 7th pick. BTW, to your point, JF history shows that in his tenure, the TE was the number one or two target in both total receptions and yards over the last three years. Unlike AR who was more WR heavy as you would expect. However, I still believe they will pick up a CB later in the draft, but if for some miracle Hunter is there at 7th I would not put a pass to AR pulling the plug or trading down for a good chuck of change. We are all assuming Sauce will be retained and contract renegotiated but with Hunter it might make Sauce a target for a monster trade. Who knows, but I’m 90% sure a TE in the first two picks is the most likely scenario with OL or DL to compliment it.
Skipping out on a generational talent in Brock Browers only to draft a tightend with the 7th pick the next year would be so Jets like.
If Hunter is there, we run to the podium. Not because we got a great CB, but because we got a great WR. That would be an amazing weapon for Fields. But Hunter will not be there at 7, just too good of a prospect. I am just being realistic with the choices we will likely have. Now Mason Graham might drop, in which case he should be the guy, and we will have to figure out a weapon and RT later in the draft, but short of that, it's either Warren, Membou, Campbell, Banks, or Tet. Among these choices, while I would not say anyone deserves to be #7, but if we have to pick, Warren seems to be the best one. It just feels like there are quite a few second tier OTs, and there is no one in the 1st tier. Chances are someone will be there at 42 in the second tier similar in quality to Membou. I am not sure anyone in the second round who is in the same ball park a weapon as Tyler Warren.
Agree with the picks. As for first tier TEs, many think Loveland might turn out to be a better TE with a larger catch radius. Don’t know much about him at all. Would he be there in the early second round?
What the previous regime did not do means nothing to this leadership team. Period. The only question that matters is “ Is Warren worth the 7th pick, generational or not? Apparently many experts seem to think so. Plus We have nailed our LT for the next ten years, a gaping hole for ever. Much needed. Now is a different problem than it was then.
Seems like a consensus #14 player picked. Not sure if he will be there at 42, that's quite a few picks past his consensus spot. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2025/consensus-mock-draft-2025 But is he is similar to Warren? He is younger, which is good, but production seems like no where near the same ballpark. 580 total yards. Warren has almost triple that, including some yards on the ground as well. Not sure if we can count on Loveland as #2 weapon next year given such production, and it does not appear realistic he will last until #42, though of course anything is possible.
Might be an option if we trade down. Apparently He is more of an X TD than an in line TE from what I read.
Yeah, I'm there on Fields. I don't expect him to do jack but keep the seat warm. However, you NEVER know. A blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while and stranger things have happened. I have my sites set to next year. "Almost" crossing my fingers that they completely shit the bed this year and land in the top spot. For ONCE I'd like to see this team actually have a guaranteed shot at a bona fide FQB! Just once in my lifetime. The competitor in me says no and there's no way the Jets have that much luck.
How long will it take until people stop looking for guarantees in the NFL draft? There are no guarantees, and there are no generational or franchise players in the draft - the closest thing you'll find is some wag's guess at who has the potential to someday earn one of those titles.
You're right, there are no guarantees. Far from it. HOWEVER, there is a baseline and it's pretty damn obvious. First obstacle. If you didn't have a 70% winning percentage in college, don't even bother. Me, personally, I would like to see at least 85% if we're talking true bona fide top 5 QB. I'd also like to see these QB's stay in no more than TWO programs. Look, I get it but CONTINUITY is key with these young QB's and bouncing around to 3 even 4 programs tells me that there are other issues. So, yeah, it's a crapshoot but there still is a talent "floor."
Mahomes had less than 50% winning % in College. Josh Allen less than 60%, Lamar less than 65%. These are the top 3 QBs in the NFL. There are no guarantees nor obvious baselines...
So why the great need for some to vault miles over "baseline" to guarantees, generational and franchise, as if they represent reality on draft day? Why set unrealistic expectations? Just because they're in there somewhere doesn't mean they can be predicted with any degree of certainty, so why bother to talk about it?
