From what I've read, PFT has this all wrong.... and it would not be the first time they reported bad info.... they make a habit of it. I've read that this contract actually ensurs that Pennington can't be cut... it would cost much more to cut him than keep him in 2007. He may well just be here to nurture the next Jet QB.....
Thank you for the sanity you've just bought to the debate. This is exactly what I was referring to. Agree, disagree, Chad fan, Chad nonfan. Its all relative and can be discussed rationally without personal attacks. I hope the new people take this as an object lesson..... The message to Chad is clear. Get healthy, stay that way, and produce or walk the plank. No gray area, no passes due to loyalty, none of the above. He either produces or he loses his job. Just like the rest of us...
If you're right, then Chad becomes the highest paid babysitter in the NFL since Kurt Warner and Eli Manning. They had the perfect opportunity to dump salary here. Especially with the highly probable "uncapped year" but instead, chose to "extend" Pennington another season. They screwed this up royally IMO. Not sure why except to placate the season ticket holders and justify perhaps higher prices for merchandise and concessions.... I hope to hell I'm wrong and this extension is for ONE year only. I'll pray the Jets draft a QB with the 4th overall. If they don't, then things at Jets HQ haven't changed at all, only the names....
With all the moves the new front office has made this offseason, I highly doubt they kept Chad as a "babysitter." There's a good chance they think Chad will still be able to perform, or they would have have just cut their losses and taken the cap hit. There is no use in having a player like this during a rebuilding period. Either you perform or you are out.
Not really..... if Pennington doesn't make his playing time incentives, and there is no new CBA,he can't get much money in 2007, there is a limit of a 30% max raise if there is no new CBA. This was really the only way to fix the contract that Bradway gave Pennington.... and Tannenbaum has found a very workable way to prop the dead man up, and get us out from the oppression of that cap killer contract. I suspect that Chad is our backup QB for many years to come, but won't kill us cap-wise, and doesn't even matter if there is no new CBA after 2007. One thing about Chad.... he WILL go team first, even if that means he's more coach than player. I'm not unhappy aboutthis at all..... it does NOT mean he's our QB, it just means he'll be here for a while, no matter what happens. I don't know how much help he'll be in coaching Cutler on throwing 65 yard bombs, though!
Thank you, you said it better than I could. It was never about Chad must start, Chad is god, it was about the above, pissing on someone when they are down is really sad. Whether people think so or not noodle arm is an insult, many of us see it that way. Others onhere have made their point about Chad in a more eloquent way, not insulting him.... I am very happy we drafted Chad and appreicate all the memories and what he has done for the Jets. For a while teams actually respected us, and all of that was becuase of Chad. All I am saying is support the guy, stop with the insults, cheer for him, how can you not?
How can we not? Because we're Jets fans, and most of us NYers- do you know what that means? If you can't perform we don't want you leading the team? Thanks for the memories, but NYers are very quick to forget the past and focus on more important issues, like the future. Plus, the MAJORITY of us see Chad for what he is now- a predictable shell of his former self. Sorry but that's the truth....
Everyone has a right to have their own opinion about Chad and his current status as a player in this league. However, this does not mean the guy should be insulted on a personal level. He was an extremely positive influence on the entire organization when he stepped in as our starting QB, and he has given everything he has to make us a better team. He has no control over his injuries, and he should not be personally insulted and bashed for it.
I lived in Queens for many years, Florida has made me soft I guess :lol: MAJORITY... not quite :up: In any case, I hope in a few months I get to say I told you so.
Hey I'd love for you to prove me wrong, that a healthy Chad guides us to the promised land and we don't even need to worry about giving anyone else playing time- but I think that the reality for him holds a much darker story... Only time will tell... Just don't sign Doug Flutie as our vet backup.
Should have cut him this year, and dealt with the cap issues now, ala Tennessee. Next year was the chance for a fresh start free of majopr cap problems and free of Glass Joe... errr... Chad Pennington
New york fans make me sick. Its actually quite nauseating to see the attitudes of some of the New york Fans. Nobody was complaing about his "noodle arm" when he was healthy. Now he comes back for a game against kansas city obviously throwing with an injured shoulder and New York fans just abandon him. Have you no memory, this guy was the heart and soul of our team, he played his a$$ off in that playoff game against the steelers, and lets not forgot although his arm is "weak", I seem to recall numerous times when Chad has thrown bombs, and what beauties they were. The bomb cp threw to jmac, that he actually overthrew. Yah wow what a pathetic arm, im sure koz could of thrown 100 yards kyle boller style. what about the bomb to Moss against san diego ? Yah what a noodle arm The point is when hes healthy hes effective, why is it most new york fans of any sport seem to have selective amnesia? Let him come back 100%, unlike the 70% he came back last year. and I promise when he does, alot of you will back on The CP train. If anyone can do it, its chad pennington. Woot Woot ! p.s i Just rembered people didnt say he had a noodle arm when he was healthy, they did'nt saw anything. But after the Kc game, reporters do what they do and hence the term "noodle arm" , "water pistol". It seems New York fans are quick to jump on any bandwagon.
Funny how "Koz" has become the leader of the anti-Pennington movement, I am honored and certainly do not stand alone. And yes, his limitations re: arm were known before in the way of his limited range/inability to consistently throw the long ball. This was known at the time of the draft. That's the beauty of the term "noodle arm"- it can be used to describe so many aspects of a player's inability, in this case I am talking range... You know, you're right, I can't throw the ball 100 yards, and never professed by ability or desire to do so. Can you? If so, we've got to get you an agent ASAP!
You're an embarassment to the Jets organization with this comment. I am sure you were happier with Neil O'Donnell, Bubby Brister, etc etc etc.
Hey Captain Obvious do I WORK for the Jets organization? No, I am a fan with a big-fat opinion. You're another new guy with a problem. Let me break it down for you- this is a message board, people come on here with varying opinions, it's not an echo chamber where what you say gets drilled into our skulls as gospel. You don't like it, don't read it. It's pretty simple. Face it- not everyone shares the rosey outlook that you might have on this guy.
Memories, like the corners of my mind. Misty water colored memories; of the way we were............... In some respects I hope he can come back. Another part of me is looking forward to who the next era brings.
I woke up early this morning flipping channels and highlights of that game were on. What a freakin' blowout... really fun to watch. Chrebet had an awesome day...Martin, even Sowell. Mawae was mowin' 'em down... what a game he had and the holes he made for Martin were incredible. INT's galore, it was just a joke at the end, how bad we slapped them around. Dungy looked like, "WTF is going on?" That game to me will always be "typical" Chad Pennington in his prime, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. Chad was so on in that game... his timing, I mean... nothing deep, no visible zip on the ball, no heat (except maybe one of Chrebet's catches in the end zone) but it was Chad at what he does best, carving up the Colts with his dinks and dunks and little bloopers. He did nothing wrong that day... unbelievable accuracy if nothing else. No mistakes. And because his completion percentages were so good, Martin was having a hell of a day too. My concern is, even if he heals 90%, Chad's going to have a real hard time ever duplicating that kind of game again. Why? Because defenses have his number now, that's why. They know there's no "vertical" game. There was never any deep ball, even back then. And it's worse now, much worse. Defenses have been licking their chops game-planning against us and jambing the box. It became laughable. Commentators were all over it like, "See, here's what happens when you don't have a deep ball..." You have to have a QB in there who poses a threat. They're not going to respect your deep ball unless you make them respect it and keep back. Elway was one of those kinds of QB's... Marino would burn the sh*t out of you with Duper and Clayton, particularly... QB's like that. Both Mannings have it too, they can kill you deep. And just the threat of it is all it takes... just one pass in the 1st quarter for a 40-yard gain and they respect you. I just don't see that happening with Chad now, even if he comes back 90%. I don't see him keeping other defenses honest. We could have Jerry Rice in his prime out there and they'd still know the ball ain't ever gonna get out there to him.
It would be nice if people showed at least a tiny bit of gratitude toward someone who made this franchise a winner as recently as 2 seasons ago. Obviously you are entitled to your own opinion, but bashing and insulting the guy is uncalled for.
