you don't get a 15 million dollar player you had to trade assets for to be in a "hold down the fort" position. if we go cutler its because we believe he IS the answer, because he's sure being paid to be such. theres a reason most of the stopgaps that many teams had weren't worth much in comparison to those who were considered THE answer. Matt Cassel(5 mil), Matt Shaub(8 mil), Chad Henne(5m), Brian Hoyer (about 2 mil), Ryan Fitzpatrick (about 4mil) even Vick (4 mil) were all inexpensive players meant to bridge the gap while younger players competed and developed. because thats how you attain a temporary asset, don't invest big into the questionable player thats not worth a huge contract in the first place. the most expensive among them is Shaub who made 8 million, half the cost of cutler. we have cap room but we'll waste it pretty damn quickly taking blind risks like that. think shaun hill or brian hoyer if your thinking short term stop gap, not the inconsistent expensive player thats perhaps not much further in terms of on field production… now if the bears cut him, thats a different story...
Maybe for you it does, but it makes several assumptions that may not apply depending on the terms of any deal. Ftr all I said is that the Jets should see waht kind of deal they might make for him. You get all nervous and make broad conclusory assertions at the mere thought. You do not sound reasonable or smart doing so, and now you suggest no more talking about it. The new year has brought no improvements to your posts. In any event I take it the Bears are waiting to see who their next HC will be before making a decision on Cutler. So let's see what happens. And stop with the no more disussions nonsense merely because you are cranky.
That's for you to stop whining about Cutler. You want to bring in an inconsistent older qb just because he is a big name. Yet not realizing that unless they flat out cut him it will cost us a ton to get him. We are a team in need of depth and young talent. Trading away picks and possible other assets for Cutler isn't smart. But in your narrow mind it makes sense because it's anybody but Smith, and he's a name you recognize. There's a reason the Bears want to get rid of him, and it isn't like they have a young qb on the roster that they feel is ready. This isn't even a team that has had a history of great QB's. Starting QB's don't fall out of trees and if they are willing to give him up. Maybe you should wonder WHY? His play is inconsistent for his contract.
Heh, you're the one who's whining. "Stop talking about Cutler!" Really... First of all they may not trade him. But the thinking is that the former GM and HC overpaid him, and that the ensuing bad feelings around the team may call for a change of scenery for him. You have no idea what a deal for him could end up being. But you don't even want to talk about it. As for anybody but Smith, you sound more and more like you want nobody but Smith.
I think they end up keeping him. But with a player with his contract a trade might be too expensive so that's why its not worth it imo. If they cut him then fine I can then live with the baggage because then he'd be signed to a cheaper contract that is manageable if things don't work out. I like Geno I never admitted that I didnt. But at the same time Ive called a spade a spade and has admitted that I don't think he's the answer. But do I wish he somehow turns things around and becomes the guy? Of course. I hope we bring in competition this year.
Cutler's the QB who has never quite put it together. The Jets are the team that has never quite put it together. It could be a marriage made in heaven or it could be pure hell. Given that we're already living through pure hell it seems like a move that we almost have to make. It can't get worse and if it clicks it will get much better for a few years. Vinny Redux. And yes, you definitely need somebody to develop behind Cutler because he's over 30 and one injury will finish him if 35 doesn't do the job. We're talking Cutler for almost no trade value. We're not talking Cutler for 2 1sts the way the Bears went a few years ago. He's probably going to be available for a 6th round pick.
His teammates dislike him and he doesn't respond to coaching. Not a solid combination. We all have our opinions but the next coach and GM will make the call. As fans we can only hope they know their business. After watching Rex for six years and thinking he did not understand the NFL, I am confident that his successor will be an upgrade. There is plenty of film on Geno, Cutler and other candidates and unlike college competition it is against pros. It will be the new staff's first big decision.
No offense, but the Jets are terrible from top to bottom. Why would you want/trade for some expensive veteran as if you're one player away and ready to win now? You're not. While you're rebuilding you might as well start Geno and find out whether he is going to progress or not, and also draft a QB if you can. I still think Geno can play well consistently in this league, but that's just me. No sense in a bottom team trading valuable picks for a guy like Cutler.
You trade for a vet because it lets you develop a young QB where they should be developed, on the sidelines. The Jets have had crappy QB play for most of the last 6 seasons. They've had this level of play because they tried to develop young QB's on the field in a "win-now" environment. That high expectations environment isn't going to go away. It's part of the equation and you can't put another young QB on the field unless you're certain he's going to succeed. Well, you can put him on the field but the media is going to have a field day with the bumps in the road and the Jets fan base is rubbed raw at this point from watching at least 4 years of failing young QB's. We'll have billboards again.
Yes. I tend to mostly discount the whole "blame the media!" excuses. But while I am highly skeptical of the idea that too many beat reporters have agendas and that they have a huge effect on the Jets' play on the field, I do recognize there is a complex relationship in the overall environment around here. That is one involving justifiably skeptical fans, media talking heads, and the current take in the national sports media that the Jets organization is a bunch of buffoons. In the middle of that mix, imo there are two things you can do even with a new GM and HC that will continue hte clown show, or more accurately present too high a risk of so doing. One is to not bring in any real competition for Smith. The Jets quite simply will risk blowing up any remaining goodwill in their fanbase if they do that. Closely related would be to use a draft pick this off season to be the only competition for Smith. Choosing between Smith and an untested rookie? Wow, can you just imagine how that would likely go down? In short the Jets MUST get a vet Qb on board this off season. It is the top priority going forward.
I am not sure Geno can. The comment yesterday that Geno has talents but not skills was really accurate. He is big, strong, can run, take a hit, but has no finesse in his throwing. Screens, touch passes up the field, quick slants and crosses show him wanting. As for the mental part, he seems to make mistakes when none are forced on him. He has backup potential, in my book. But as a starter, not so sure.
