I agree, but I think he loves the game too much to walk away. I'm thinking IF he still wants to play, even at his age and poor play in the PO, he's still top 4 QB's in the league. He will put asses in seats here in NY.
And let's say he does want to still play. What makes you think he will come to the Jets? I mean, honestly. What do we have that will intrigue him to come here?
Sadly, nothing. I was dreaming a little. At this point, he's padding his career stats, hate to see him quit the game.
Simms was only activated for one game. As far as I recall he was on the PS the other 15 games and available to other teams. Not sure if a team makes a claim the PS team has first right to activate him before a claim. Simms is just an example. There are a lot of other Qbs who were on practice squads because teams are only carrying 2 Qbs. I think Matt Barkely was on the Philly PS and there's other examples. Not sure about the Giants and Ryan Nassib.
You can be on the active roster and not active for a game. You get a 53 man active roster but only 46 can be active for the game.
We could hire Gase then bring Manning and both Thomas boys in to pair with Decker then we would be the Broncos east........ Jk
Did some research on the Simms idea specifically since it entered my mind as well: When Simms came off the PS around November 1st, he was on the roster for the remainder of the season--just not active for games after Geno's shoulder healed (Jets carried 3 QB's on the 53). Stanton went down for the Cards on Dec 11th. So Simms was on the 53 at the time and the trade deadline had passed.
People keep making the baseless point that Cutler was surrounded by great talent. Well in 13 he was and they did fairly well, but this year they had injuries and performance drop offs around him. Check their running game's production, for example. There simply are not a lot of options in FA or by trade right now. Jets need a solid hold the fort guy. No one better for that description exists than Cutler.
But I think Simms was not on the active roster all of the season except that one game (which he actually played in). There was a change in the rule on 3rd string Qbs a few years ago and most teams now carry their no. 3 guy on the PS. So Simms was demoted from being Geno's backup and no. 2 Qb in 2013 to being on the PS in 2014 except for one game.
If I'm a new head coach, I'm not taking that chance on Cutler, certainly not with the Jets. If you're going to start a hold the fort guy temporarily, you want one who won't make mistakes. Someone more along the line of Alex Smith than Jay Cutler. Someone who can supplement a run focused offense and not lose games for the team. Cutler is not that, he's the quarterback who will lose games for you.
Who else is there? Pickings are slim for QB. Colt McCoy, Hasselback, Mallett, Flynn, Moore, Locker, Hoyer, Ponder, Gabbert, Sanchez... Of those, I'd take Moore. Not great, but solid.
The situation will likely change by the time the offseason is in full swing, so there may be options available that we aren't currently aware of, but I'd inquire after Glennon and Bradford to see if there are any bargains to be had. If not, then Moore would probably be an ok 1 year stopgap... or Shaun Hill possibly. None of the options are great, so I'd keep the investment low in whoever the choice is, which is yet another reason why Cutler is a bad option.
I did not know that Alex Smith is or is likely to be available!!! OF COURSE the Jets should get him! Oh, he's not available? Back to Cutler. I did not know that the definition of a hold the fort guy is someone who doesn't make mistakes. I thought a hold the fort guy is someone who will offer mid-level Qb performance more or less, and is still near the peak of their career performance and likely to be there for another 3 to 5 years. It's those qualities that make me think Cutler would be a good fit for the Jets. Whatever term you want to use.
I didn't say Smith was available, I was illustrating the type of quarterback I believe the Jets should pursue. None will be as good as Alex Smith, which is why it will be a short term low risk investment. Cutler is a high risk investment, capable of doing more damage than good to the new regime.
I am not trying to be snarky here, but the Jets should pursue someone who is available, and not pursue someone who is not available. Hence why I have not been talking about Alex Smith. You keep making these kind of general comments I don't know where they come from. Like "high risk investment" - what is that supposed to mean? "capable of doing more than damage than good" - you mean like keeping Geno Smith as the starting Qb for the Jets is not that??? I am going to leave this discussion since I don't think you're making any real points here.
You support the idea of trading for Cutler, but at what price? Going on your premise of going for who is available (it is not certain that Cutler is) then: 1) What are you willing to part with in a trade? How many draft picks? What round draft picks? 2) Would you accept Cutler at his current contract, or are you making the assumption that he will gladly renegotiate to give the Jets a better deal? If you understand the answer to these questions in the context of his on the field performance, then you would understand the points I'm making.
I'm not sure RG3 is a suitable option. Granted, he's a boom or bust, throw of the dice player. But do we need two of those at that position? Look what the Eagles did when they signed Vick. They had McNabb as an established QB on the roster. Actually, come to think of it, RG3 to the Eagles might make a lot of sense.
