Harris is a smart vet but he's too slow now to go from side to side. Time to cut him. If Mangold takes a pay cut and is physically able to play, he's a keeper. He'll end up on the jet Ring of Honor! I'm not happy keeping Marshall. He has too many drops and may be a negative in the locker room He also demands the ball at the expense of other WR's (if only our team had a big TE and use him we would miss him less).)
I hear what you're saying and maybe you're right, but the way I've been looking at it is that Mangold's body is breaking down on him. He may have and maybe I missed it, but I've never read or heard about him taking a young OL under his wing and mentoring him. Harris missed 5 games his 2nd year with the Jets and 1 this past season; otherwise, he has been the picture of health and productivity. While he's definitely too slow, and has been for years, he's still a good and very effective player. Further, Lee credits Harris with helping him a lot this season, not only with the D and the mental aspects of the position, but also the mental aspects of not getting too high or too low. At this stage in their careers, I've thought that Harris was the better player of the two, but maybe I'm wrong.
I just dont see Mangold being on this roster for 9 million. No way the FO keeps him at that. And I dont see him renegotiating with a likely losing 2017 team at less money. He'd be better off leaving to try & sign w/a GB or Seattle to make it deep in the playoffs 1 last time in his career. And yes, --- i remember us letting Kevin Mawae go thinking he was finished only to see him put up about 4 more quality seasons in Tennessee. Letting Skrine go still leaves dead money and cutting Steve McLendon is brainless.
For me Mangold and Harris need to stay. Decker is good alone, but paired with another (I hate saying this about Marshall) big time receiver, he and everyone around him get better. That's gold. But Marshall could go and deck would still be productive and to be honest, a whole lot easier to work with. Skrines, is a bit of a wet cat for me at times. They can probably find some as good or at least less of a liability. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
There are a couple of really decent looking TEs in the draft, both blocking and catching. I'm liking Everett. Howard looks good but most clips I've seen he's wide open making catches. That's great, but I'm not smart enough to know if it's scheme or he's just a beast at finding the holes. I'm sorry but, I can't agree about Harris obviously haha, but he's still very productive and as you said smart. Not keeping him at least one more year would be a mistake imo. In fact he lead in tackles. He's still very much mostly David Harris Marshall, I totally agree. Ciao. He's made some plays. He's also made a habit of losing yards trying to be something he isnt: evasive. And he's a tool. And a Keyshawn disciple of the church of throw me the fucking ball Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
I was concerned about that too, whether or not Decker can play. Have we had any word on his recovery?
Have to agree . With our draft position we could come away with Cook and a top TE. Still get a corner or safety and o line depth. Not only would the RB TE combo take some pressure off the young QB but with our young speedy recievers, Cook in space with a legitimate TE but could be the foundation for the Offense for years to come.
I think you're correct. I think he was on the depth chart at LT during preseason. He's the one who got Petty hurt during preseason when he made like a matador and his pass rusher went straight to Petty.
With the expected cuts the Jets should have some money to spend in the offseason. The Jets need to fill a number of positions. I wanted to throw some names out there to see what people think and try to put players who have been linked to the Jets through reports. 1. QB: Linked: Glennon, Tyrod Taylor, Alex Smith, Matt Barkely, Hoyer, McKnown: Glennon, Taylor, and Smith will be the starters and the Jets would be saying that they don't trust Petty and Hackenburg. Barkely, Hoyer and McKnown would be saying we are going Petty or Hack and just want an experienced qb. Really not sure what they will do here. 2. C: JC Trotter: Do the Jets restructure Mangold and sign Johnson as there backup? Do they let Mangold go and believe in Johnson or sign Trotter or another free agent center. I'd say they draft one too but if they go the free agent route I do not think they'll draft one. Be interesting to see how this plays out. 3. Left Tackle: Reif, Kalil, Wagner, Remmers: I could see the Jets signing one of these guys. There are no sure things in the draft this year and I think they would look to sign one of these guys and then draft someone later or next year. 4. OLB: Nick Perry and Melvin Ingram The only ones I know that are linked to the Jets. I could see them signing someone for OLB but I think they want Jenkins and Mauldin to develop. I also think at 6 they might look to draft someone. Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster have been linked to them there. 5. CB: Bouye, Johnson Gilmore These are the three I have seen linked. Bouye and Gilmore are rumored that they will ge the tag. Johnson is looking for a huge contract. I know Bowles wants cover corners. I think they will sign a starter. Not sure if it will be from these three. Be intersting to see what they do with CB. 6. Safety: Jefferson Only name I've seen linked. From Arizona. Really developing. I think he would be a great siging. I think Gilchrest will be released and I think he would be a great replacement. Would love it if it happened. With the new offensive coordinator I'd expect the Jets to sign a FB and TE and draft a TE at some point. Haven't seen anyone linked but expect a few new people for those positions. Wanted to see what others heard or are thinking about.
I think most would agree that we are in full rebuild mode right now. Realistically we won't be ready to compete until 2019. If Mac Drafts well in this draft and next ,we should have a talented young roster hitting it's stride at that time. In my opinion, it makes sense to part ways with the vets now. If they realistically can't be expected to contribute at a high level in 2019, they should be released unless they can be traded for anything. If we can gain a draft pick, even better. Fill the roster with young, cheap hungry players , avoiding Free agents this season. Roll that $50 million over , use the $10 -$15 mill increase in the cap next year and in 2018 to lock up young players early, Williams, Enunwa come to mind. It would be much better having $50-70 million to use on free agents once you have that young competive roster to fill it out with a missing piece or two.
Not sure why I see so many people clamoring for a TE when we still have ASJ on the roster for next to nothing. If a TE just falls into our lap in the mid rounds why not, but I see no reason to target one early when there are needs elsewhere. Besides, ASJ's issue isn't skills related he just wasn't utilized and was oft injured.
Agree. I don't see TE as a big priority on this daft. But we might go after a sleeper on the late rounds. As much as folks here hate to hear it, OLB, FS and CB will be a target early on, as well as OL and RB. Don't see us going all out for a QB particularly on the first round. Free agency will be interesting, while we part ways with many vets, getting younger almost across the board will be a priority. Only stop gaps I see getting are OL may be CB and or FS.
I'm not sure how you came up with all the LT names that you mention. Riley Reiff is obvious, as is Matt Kalil. If Wagner is Baltimore's Ricky Wagner, he is a RT, and not even a topflight RT. IMO that would be a waste of money. The same goes for Mike Remmers of Carolina. Bradley Sowell of Seattle might be worth it, but he might not be any better than Ijalana. At least he's only 27. I'd rather have Andrew Whitworth or Reiff even if it was for only one or two seasons, but imo neither will come here. http://nfltraderumors.co/top-2017-nfl-free-agents-list/
I got it from Jetswire. Not sure if it is reputable. My fault should've looked into that more. I agree with you on Reiff and Whitworth. Be great for a year or two but they aren't coming here. Wagner is a right tackle and with Shell I don't think the Jets will look to add one. Remmers would be more depth I know he isn't great. Don't know about Sowell but if he's good for depth then it might be worth it. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.
No problem. Glad to help. I hadn't pulled up the complete list of LTs who were due to become FAs in a while, and I had forgotten who the others were. It's a short and unimpressive list. Mac definitely should have taken their new LT in last year's draft. That's a big mistake on his part.
