let's go back in time. i watched a lot of those redskin games w/ramsey. he had NO LINE. good lord we are all forgeting WE HAVE NO LINE. leinert comes in what happens, he'll be on I.R. before you know it. cutler= same young=eventually ramsey is the 1 or 2 year qb. build the friggin defense first rounds.
True, that's why the period between FA and the draft is one of the most interseting times of the year. And when it comes to the draft, you never really know. I remember how much sense Ed Reed made to us and we all remember how that turned out.
hahah ok I see so where waisting a 5th round draft pick on someone who is gonna fight it out to be the 2nd string QB, PLease try to listen if we wanted to take cutler with the 4th pick we wouldnt be trading for ramsey because we would already have 3 QB's on the roster. I understand that none of these guys are going to be the future QB of the jets in the long term, but rebuilding does not take 1 year we will fill needs this year and next year we will draft a QB.
call me crazy but I just can't imagine Brooks Bollinger standing in the way of the FO plan for the QB position. We are in position to get a QB THIS year, how do you know we will be next year as well..
If the Saints get Brees, they will first try to trade down and grab Hawk. If they can't trade down, they'll take Ferguson. If they offer us some insanely good deal, then I'd trade up and grab Leinart. In that situation, I believe it would be a buyer's (our) market. Fair value would be #2 for #4 and our 2nd and 3rd round picks. Let's say they were willing to take #4 + our 3rd rounder, next year's 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder, I'd probably do it. Leinart is very highly regarded, and a fairly safe bet. Pennington will most likely be gone after this season, and Ramsey offers us a quality backup and potential starter for a year or two while Leinart is seasoned on the bench.
Then just explain to me why we would waiste a 5th round draft pick on ramsey?, we could go and sign any cheap free agent QB. You keep talking about the Front Office. Why in a sport with a salary cap would we adda 3rd QB and give up a Draft Pick if are ultimate goal is to go draft another QB. If we dont get ramsey then I would say that we may draft a QB in the draft. but if we are getting Ramsey their is no way under and circumstance we waiste a 4th pick in the draft on another QB, after restructuring Pennington and trading for Ramsey. If we wanted a QB in the draft what was the point of either move. And also you are obviously another Jets fan that never saw cutler play in his life but because the scouts talked about him on television you decide that he is this amazing franchise QB. First go watch a guy play before you have an opinion on a player.
I don't think the Saints will take Bush with a billion dollars invested in Deuce... I wouldn't be shocked if the Jets traded Abe and their #4 pick to the Texans for the #1 pick, and took Bush themselves. If the Jets sign Ramsey, I doubt they will be drafting a QB, I could be wrong... but that's my opinioin.
You guys need to come down about Ramsey... If the open market suggests that his trade value is only a 5th round draft pick, what makes you think that the Jets wouldn't take a QB in the 1st round? There not making this trade for him to the future. He's just a guy whose making less $2 mill (in his last year) to be a back up to Chad this year. If he turns out to be better, than thats a plus. But he is not our QB of the future.
The open market suggests that the Skins have no bargaining power with Ramsey. They have openly admitted to the fact that if nobody trades for him, they will cut him regardless... which takes any potential value they could get in trade away automatically. If you were willing to pay $20 for a sandwich... but the dude who made the sandwich says openly "well if nobody buys the sandwich for $20, I'm gong to throw it away"....how much do you think his sandwich is now worth? Ramsey got screwed in Washington, I am from NYC, but the military has me stationed in Virginia where the Skins are the home team...I've been forced to watch them for going on 4 seasons. Ramsey is a damn good QB who might as well have had me blocking for him in Spurriers offense. Joe Gibbs is known for playing vets over youngin's and unknown quantities, so he went with Brunell. Ramsey was never ever given a fair chance in Washington, and when he did play, he did well. He has more TD's than Int's, in an offense that included great recievers like....um.....like.......yeah, exactly. He got KILLED behind that O-line, brothers and sisters, killed. Not because he held the ball too long, but because his O'line acted like matadors while the defense was filled with charging bulls....Ole'!!!!!! For a 5th rounder, they'd be nuts not to take him. It would free them up to improve the O-line, and I honestly think that Ramsey, when given the chance to remain upright for more than 2 seconds per play, will surprise EVERYONE.
First of all you don't know anything thing about me so don't go making assumptions in which you have no idea about.. Second you keep throwing around the waste word. We are getting a veteran Qb with some potential for a 5th round pick, that is hardly a waste if we draft a QB or not. If the FO is smart which all indications seems to be the case than there plan for the QB position would be to get a guy to groom and be the future. Chances are there plan is for him not to see the field this year. So explain to me how its a waste to trade a 5th round pick for a veteran back up insurance plan with some potential to challenge Penny THIS year and next year when Penny is released and Ramsey is a FA the rookie is ready to take over and be our franchise QB for the next decade. If we have learned anything than last year it would be you can NEVER have enough Qbs..
1 basic thing, you dont trade a draft pick for a guy that you dont plan on using. AJ Feeley was traded in a horrible trade to the dolphins for a 2nd rounder because they planned on starting him the next year, Drew Henson was traded to the cowboys because he was meant to be the QB of the future and then neither of these teams went and drafted a QB in that upcoming draft after these trades. You dont waiste ANY draft pick on a QB that your just bringing in to play while the guy you used a 1st round pick on is getting groomed on the bench for a year. NO TEAM DOES THAT.and second I dont care about who you are that has nothing to do with this post. I asked if you have ever wathced Vandy play a full game last year or 2 years ago.
