Jets looking at Chris Johnson

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Geno007, Mar 31, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    Would you give them a 6th or 7 for him?
     
  2. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    Really? lol

    In the 6 years that MM was the offensive coordinator for Philly, McCoy rushed for 3,866 yards and 30 TD.
     
  3. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,766
    Likes Received:
    20,786
    My point is it's a little absurd to call a 28 year old running back a grandpa, especially considering one of our best RBs was someone we signed when he was 29 and had a career year at 31. It doesn't matter how it happened... it happened.
     
  4. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    You know how many times we were inside the opponents 10 on 1st down and we pass the ball like some fucking idiots?? All the time..
     
  5. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2013
    Messages:
    4,606
    Likes Received:
    1,553

    Due to how good shady McCoy is. Most eagles fans always complained how shady didnt get to run the ball enough. Dude can rack up 100 yrds in about 12-13 carries. Last year under chip was alot better but under Reid he wasn't getting enough touches
     
  6. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    Idc. I'm looking at the statistics under his control.

    Chris Johnson has a career 7,900+ yards and 50 TD's in one year more than McCoy has been in the league. McCoy has 5,400+ yards and 39 TD's.

    Chris Johnson can be that Thomas Jones under MM.
     
  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    Maybe because we don't have a RB that we trust can make it.
     
  8. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    So what the fuck did we get Ivory for?? He is built for those short yards are you kidding me? Have you seen Ivory run?? He is a fucking beast! They need to get him the ball more.
     
  9. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    What was the percentage we ran when Thomas Jones was on the team, compared to last year? I am curious...
     
  10. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    Chris Johnson has been in the league one more year than McCoy. Johnson has 7,965 yards and 50 TD'S and has never missed one game.

    McCoy has 5,473 yards and 39 TD's and has missed a number of games.

    I will take Chris Johnson any day.
     
  11. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    You can't sit here and say you would take Chris Johnson over McCoy..
     
  12. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    It will be more with Thomas because we were set in stone with a running back that can handle the load. Chris Ivory was splitting carries and battling a hurt hamstring last year.

    That is not an accurate argument when one was the lead back and the other was splitting carries.
     
  13. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    I never said "over McCoy".

    But I will take Chris Johnson any day
     
  14. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    I am willing to bet that if CJ2K came here, he would not have more than 200 carries.
     
  15. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    Why is that? Because you think he won't? What tells you he won't?

    He has been the workhorse for his entire career in Tennessee and amassed almost 8,000 yards and 50 TD'S. What has Ivory done that warrants him to be the main guy?
     
  16. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    Not because he doesn't have the talent to get that many carries but because our OC is a pass first coordinator.. Its as simple as that.. If CJ2K came here in the Sparano/Schotty days, then he would probably have 300 carries.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    They see him in practice everyday. With the number of turnovers Smith had last year you would think they would run the ball there if they thought they had somebody who could, wouldn't you?
     
  18. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    No I don't cuz MM is a "I don't give a shit if its 1st and Goal on the 1 yard line, we are going to throw this ball" kinda OC. Marty tries to get cute and fool people, but he ain't fooling shit. I like the passing mentality as that is what this league is transitioning to, but when you have a guy like Ivory who has that violent running style, the offense needs to be centered around him.
     
  19. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    4,092
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    And stop talking about his injury as he played in 15 games this season.. Yea he probably wasn't 100% but name me a player that is 100% throughout the season.
     
  20. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    You keep saying that but MM has shown what he does when he has a workhorse like Chris Johnson. I showed you already what McCoy did in Philly under MM. Why can't you understand that?

    Did it ever occur to you that MM was pass first last year because he didn't feel he had a guy who could take the load every game?
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page