I think this would be a terrible move. 1. He's not a complement to Greene. He's a similar player. 2. Michael Bush is better. But again, not a complement, very similar player to Greene. 3. We have far greater needs. WR is still a need, as well as RT and both safety spots.
Excellent, but the fact is that the he can stay with the Pats if all he wants is "for not too much money" Last season he made $1.8MM. Do the Jets want to play him more, because he can go back and get that from the Pats
Far greater needs when we are supposed to be a ground and pound team yet we have no backs who can perform that function over a 60 minute game let alone a season?
You don't think Greene can be a ground and pound back with a good offensive line? I do. And without good OLs, these guys can't be good either. BJGE is successful bc of Brady and the Raiders have a fantastic Oline. Bush also really wore down when he was a full time starter and didn't do much late in the year. I'd argue neither guy is a clear cut upgrade.
Understandable, not saying the team does not need upgrades at OL/OL depth (as we do sorely). However, I think that an addition of a cheap back that could come in here and provide supplement to the backfield as well as someone who does NOT fumble (something that has killed many a game in the past for us) would not be a bad thing.
:rofl2: Seriously, he'll probably get too much money. He's an average back who isn't an awful complement to Greene, and I like that he doesn't fumble, but he's not an explosive back at all, so I'd rather give the young guys a shot.
I don't mind the Jets inquiring about this. You have a durable back who has not fumbled and can block well. I don't remember if he can receive well, but the blocking/not fumbling definitely feed into what we think Sparano is trying to establish here. For the right price, yes this would be a good signing after addressing some other needs.
Well, out of the 2, I'd prefer Michael Bush because he can at least catch the ball. I just don't see BJGE as an upgrade. If we're going to try to upgrade the position, let's really upgrade it and go for Deangelo or Stewart. If the price is a 3rd round pick, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Any higher and it would be tough to do.
Fair enough, just arguing in BJGE's defense because i love the fact he never fumbles, i think that is a truly understated asset here. However, I indeed would prefer EITHER deangelo/stewart over BJGE in any case.
Not a fan. Can't think of one Belichick running back that went elsewhere and succeeded. He's a system back and has no explosion. He doesn't complement Greene at all. I'd rather stay cheap and give McKnight carries over him.
Agreed. I'd take Bush in a heart beat. He showed last year he can carry the rock by himself when run DMC went down. Idk how much he'll cost but I'd rather spend the extra few million on him then law firm.
i thought the opposite of michael bush. he really wore down being the main guy. like a LOT. but nooooo to bje. what is the point of having another shonn greene on this team? he's just another guy who can't break off a long run and takes what is given. great, he doesn't fumble. if your best attribute as a rb is that you don't fumble, then it probably means you're not that good.
Tend to agree with this. But Michael Bush is beast. He has some acceleration and has shown he can be a 20+ carry guy.
BJGE has a nose for the back of the endzone, he could help us makeup for the lack of redzone competency that we may be losing in cough plax cough. As for Bush breaking down " ALOT " i dont see it..... http://www.nfl.com/player/michaelbush/2507192/gamelogs Kept up a decent YPC and YPG and he wouldnt be the main guy coming here
Yea, you may be right. Off hand I just remembered a couple games where he carried my fantasy team. When DMC went down (carries/yards): 17/99 19/96 30/157 30/109 24/69 10/18 23/78 18/77 23/70 19/66 Totals: 213/839 (3.9 avg) Not as good as I first thought rushing the ball, but he also chipped in 30+ catches/400+ yds receiving. We all know Greene has stone hands out of the backfield. I'd still advocate the signing.
really? because bush was the starter from week 9 on. he had 3 straight good games. then he broke 4.0 ypc once and never reached 80 yards in a game. he finished the year with a 3.8 ypc. that's not good at all. 977 carries on 256 carries is below shonn greene.
