Yep. Its funny to all the character flaws that people harp on Rodgers, both Brady and Manning had to but Jets fans would never know because all they have known is mediocre or garbage QBs. Thats fine, hopefully Rodgers digs the knife into this fanbase that wanted him gone next year by going to a playoff contender because under their logic 100% of the Jets record is only on Rodgers so if he goes to another team and wins then 100% of the record will be because of him. Max pain incoming for the clueless people that couldn't realize that the Jets had the worst coaching staff in NFL history, a defense that completely fell off and a FG kicker that cost the team multiple games. Glenn now under immense pressure to produce a better record then wherever Rodgers goes to. If a Rookie HC wants to kick a HOF QB to the curb then you better have a replacement that is better & ready to go. There are no excuses next year. Glenn must win if he wants to establish that culture he talked about. If he doesnt then he is on the hot seat in year 2. All his talk and decision to kick Rodgers must be backed up with winning seasons now starting in 2025. If Rodgers wins and the Jets lose next year his seat will get very hot fast because this fanbase will not take it lightly.
On #1…. That’s true. Green Bay has had what? 3 starting qbs since the mid 90s? If they are parting with one, don’t bite!
I disagree. Glenn doesn't have to "win" to prove anything. Most fans understand that it takes time to "win" consistently. I'm hoping for another 5 win season so we can at least have a chance at a FQB. Woody always gives his hires several years so the heat won't be coming from him. Rodgers would have won a few more games, but in the long run, we'd be in the middle again draft BPA's while other teams draft ahead of us and land stars. If Glenn is using the Detroit Model, he's probably targeting '25 for quality and '26 for a FQB. By then, his staff will have had a year to get their feet on the ground and the new foundation to take shape. The players would have had a year in the new system to understand their roles. Those that don't fit will be let go for DP's. Now is the time for patience....
Respectfully disagree. Glenns press conference and decision to boot Rodgers has set the tone. He has to win next year. If he doesn't there are many fans that wont sit lightly especially if Rodgers goes and wins games. At least half the fanbase is not happy with this decision so Glenn will be hearing it loud very fast if they don't win. He must win. A lot of this fanbase is not going to settle for losing.
Show me where Brady or Manning contemplated running for VP or anything at all that would take them away from being a football player? Show me where they missed training camp to go on a sightseeing vacation. Show me where they were filming their own documentaries in the lockerroom and meetings during the season. Show me where they had exclusive weekly spots on a national media outlet airing out whatever they felt the need to air out, including throwing teammates under the bus? For all intents and purposes last year was Rodgers true last chance to reach the goal of another SB win, but he wasn’t all in on it at all. He’s easily distracted and frankly nothing like Brady or Manning ever was at making football a priority. He’s like a dog, and every little distraction was a squirrel to him. But he’s laughing all the way to the bank, and maybe that was his goal the whole time. He certainly wasn’t all in on football, that’s for sure.
Of course there aren't identical incidents but they all have character flaws which was my point. Peyton Manning called his FG kicker an "idiot kicker". Brady would constantly scream at teammates and so would Manning. But those character flaws are what great QBs do. They scream and put pressure on the players around them. Brady did it and Manning did it. Jets fans wouldn't know because all they have seen is mediocre QBs.
Nothing and no one will ever make this fanbase 100% happy. Glenn wins? Half the fanbase will be pissed that we missed out on our chance at a FQB. Glenn loses? the other half of the fanbase will be pissed that Rodgers isn't on the roster and we could have contended for the VLT. Just the way it is. Either way, half the fanbase will be happy, the other half won't. All Glenn has to do is show this team isn't s laughingstock anymore and its all good for most fans. Show discipline on the field win or lose and be competitive. Eliminate the bad mistakes, behaviors and coaching is their year one priority. Winning will come when it comes IF they get this clown show straightened out. Glenn just might be the HC to get it done.
If the Jets made the playoffs next year I don't think people will be mad they didnt tank for a QB. However if they win and dont make the playoffs then sure people will be mad. Regardless Glenn is under pressure to win next year. This roster has a lot of talent that has not been properly utilized. Hes not inheriting a team like Saleh or Gase inherited. This team has way more talent. The bar is much higher.
And if Glenn doesn't win 10 games or make the playoffs, you think he's fired? You can't be serious. Woody will give him ample time to get HIS team and staff right. He doesn't have to win next year. If it pisses the Rodgers contingent off? so what. They'll never be satisfied anyway because Rodgers isn't the QB of the NYJ's anymore. The fans in this instance are inconsequential as the only opinion that matters is Woody's. I would refrain from putting unreasonable expectations on this team in the first year of Glenn's tenure but you do you. I've been watching this team too long to be impatient or delusional. If 2-3 years down the road no improvement? burn his house down. The one thing this team cannot be under any circumstances is the clown show/ laughingstock it was for the last several years. That has to end this year. I don't see Glenn allowing that to happen either. For better or worse, we will see a different Jet team on the field in '25.
No but he will be on the hot seat in 2026 if he doesnt win next year. Hes a rookie head coach with zero experience. His leash is much shorter. The Jets giving him complete authority is a complete disgrace. I wouldnt have even given Vrabel that but giving a guy who has never coached a single game? Cant make it up; the laughing stock has continued
Well, by 2026 we should be seeing tangible improvement to the point that expectations should be higher. Most of the dead weight on the roster should be gone by then and with any luck, we'll be in position to draft a possible FQB. Woody to his credit is trying something that worked for Jimmy Dolan. That would be the hands-off approach for once. Now giving that much authority to a 1st timer is risky I'll give you that. But if Aaron Glenn is the personality his persona projects, its really not all that risky. Far less than it was with Saleh and Gase. If we're dancing around the WC by '26, I'm sure most would be satisfied. We're not gonna challenge BUF by then as the talent gap will still be fairly wide especially at the QB position but the expectation should be the Jets being competitive in the AFCE. One thing that will help Glenn is that while it does appear he has complete authority, he's got a lot of help in the bldg and it appears he will seek out those smarter than he is. In fact, isn't that Speilman's job as the defacto VP of Football Ops/advisor? I'm pretty sure everyone around him won't let him stray too far off the reservation and I think Glenn is wrapped waay too tight for that to happen anyway. Don't forget just like the rest of us, Woody is still watching and if shit goes completely sideways? he will intervene.
I recall being thrilled when the Rodgers trade took place. I thought The Jets were just decent quarterback play away from the playoffs, and that he would provide it. His season ending injury after 4 plays is my lowest point as a Jets fan in 40 years of following the team. My overriding feeling now is one of sadness that it did not work out.
If JD bothered and were competent enough to build a decent OL in 2023 when we signed Rodgers and didn't completely check out and just sit on his fat ass after we got him things could have been a lot different. The injury doesn't happen, compared to last year in 2023 Rodgers is a year younger and less diminished, not dealing with recovery, etc, he is well protected, we have elite defense and special teams (this was before JD destroyed the DL completely and failed to replace Greg with the younger guy who outplayed him in training camp), things could have been a lot different. The bottom line is that imbecile JD just couldn't protect him in 2023 and that back breaking mistake fucked the entire Rodgers' "era". If he did, we just never know what could have happened, but I don't think we would be talking about a 14 year play-off drought right now. What could have been...
maybe you should read what I wrote, ther is no mention of the Egypt trip...so not sure what your talking about. AAAAAAAAAA, I wanted AR here but he didn't elevate his team mates nor did he win.
Rodgers on September 25th 2024 “our biggest struggle is going to be handling success” the Jets would go onto lose 9 of their next 10
Not only the fan base...but Garrett Wilson and a few other young players. Are they supposed to wait until 2026 to draft a QB...who will be ready to play good in 2028? I agree that Aaron Rogers wasn't great and maybe his stats look better than what we saw in the games.....still....if you had told me he'd have those numbers BEFORE the season, I would have thought we'd be 10-7 at the worst. You guys would, too.
We can lose with or without them. If they want out? Let them go for DP's and move on. There is NO ONE presently on the roster that is irreplaceable.
