when you say top 20 qb do you mean top 20 ranked or top 20 best? as i understand they are very different things. turns out you can be 27th ranked but top 10 best
That game was just so bad man - how many TOs did we have in like 59 seconds of play? Not sure if Peyton would of won us that game, considering he lost to the Patriots that year with a better team. Not here to defend Mark - but that game was a lost cause
that game went out of control quickly, sanchez pick, long td, butt fumble, ko return fumble id say he played a very large part in the unraveling. the pick was the beginning of it and after the butt fumble the ko return fumble really didnt even matter. i thought the situation had unraveled at that point. to say someone else would have won, who knows. i do know that manning wouldnt have thrown the ball behind the receiver and would never look as inept as the cheeseman did on the butt fumble.
i am actually completely wrong it was a fumble that began it. the cheeseman int was at the ne 16 on the previous drive. so he is not as at fault as i had previously stated. but he still threw a bad int at their 16 then the butt fumble... that fucking butt fumble.
Brian Costello @BrianCoz Also, I know there was some talk of this, but the Jets have not asked Mark Sanchez to restructure his contract, per source. #nyj
how would a restructure help? the only way that mark sanchez will help the jets is if he makes it easier for them to cut or trade him. and you couldnt trade him for lance armstrongs ball right now. if they make it so this guy is stuck here any extra time i may end up not watching the jets until he is gone. it would be pointless to watch.
I will say this right now, and anyone here can take it anyway they want, but not only do I agree with you about restructuring, but if on Opening Day Mark Sanchez is the starting Qb, and it's a nice day outside, I sure as shit am not going to waste my time watching the Jets play one more game of lousy football with that crap going on.
Mark didn't play against SD and unlike the playoffs where his Sts scored twice for him our Sts allowed a TD, there were no open WRs all game long which is why our QB took double digit sacks. I will give you the Ten game, we win that game, we got crushed by Miami and Buf was a meaningless week 17 game so only the Ten game off your list. He got crushed by Hou w/ much better talent to work with, how was he beating them w/ us? We didn't lose that game b/c of QB play, we lost it b/c of JJ Watt. The first pats game Mark brought us back from 10 down late and gave our great D a lead late. Seattle is debateable, that was close enough through a half where better QB play could help but in case no one noticed Seattle was pretty damn good and didn't lose a game at home all year so I can't give him that one. basically it's the Ten game and maybe Buf if it became meaningful. Mark was awful but if you couldn't see how awful our weapons were and how they couldn't get any seperation you have no idea what you are watching. Nope he wouldn't have but he would have lost. That game was already 14-0 by the time of the fumble and we had another one right after that. He couldn't win getting 14 Sts pts, he was going to beat NE giving up STs pts? The game would have been closer b/c Peyton is great in garbage time but we never have a chance to win that game, people forget how the Pats O dominated our D that night too. Interesting, so peyton would have been able to stop Brady up 3 late in the game, he also would have made Stephen Hill catch that big pass too, right? This peyton manning guy is even better than I thought, he must have at least 7-8 SB titles by now. B/c Peyton has never thrown an INT, right? You know w/ vastly inferiror weapons Mark led the Jets to a much closer game against the Pats this year than Peyton did. wow! you clearly have absolutely no idea what you are watching. Alex Smith would have won us 9 or 10 games? I have seen it all now. IOt's bas enough when people say Peyton would have won 9 or 10 games but Alex Smith? The D was good but it looked much better b/c our O was so bad and opponents were protecting leads and playing conservative. another bonus to mark starting. We can get rid of the bandwagon fans.
Do you know what a restructure is? It could help tremendously. Gholston took less when he wasn't performing, maybe Sanchez could do the same.
Man it's not a secret that Sanchez numbers sucked specifically last year, but to say he won 6 games and lost 10, is ridiculous. Obv. he didn't win or lose any games but played a big hand in our season being the way it was. The team specifically offense and Special teams sucked. Our personnel on offense was the worst in the league esp the wr position. Our oline was bad, yes they were bad, the 11 sacks allowed was a joke. B tw... How the fk do you measure a persons confidence, leadership, maturity, or his will through the tv? Bcuz you cant with out knowing the guy personally. Us fans sound ridiculous making statements abt Sanchez confidence, hardwork, etc. How can we say any qb would Win or lose with this team is pure speculation, from Boomer to Hasselback this offense was poor. Lets focus on reality, and that is the offense sucked and we were 6-10.
Totally different situation. Gholston was going to be cut if he didn't accept contract restructure since it was an uncapped year in NFL. Coming back to Sanchez: Players do NOT restructure without getting more money in the long-run or without guaranteeing an extra season on the roster. This is not a knock on Mark Sanchez personally because this behavior is norm throughout NFL. It's extremely wishful thinking that Sanchez is gonna accept a paycut when he knows Jets can't afford to just cut him. You have to give him more money in the long run or guarantee him at least one more season on the roster.
Haha, I drank at least half a liter of bourbon. How bout when we see him hanging his head like a little bitch every other play, how bout when he says the same gay shit every postgame. If his receivers are blowing routes then point at them and tell em to stop fucking up. If it looks like shit and smells like shit, I don't have to stick my hand in it to make sure. If Sanchez has a great year next year then I'll be the first guy to say congratulations but even if he corrects every other part of his game that's only gonna happen if he holds his head up and lets his nuts swing.
This is what I can't stand about the guy. I remember when he said the butt fumble was "unlucky" after saying he forgot the damn play. What exactly was unlucky about it?
I'll be happy. But the idea of that happening is so unrealistic that I'm not even entertaining that...nothing about Sanchez screams 'good year in 2013'...nothing. He has no confidence. When you're benched for a 7th round draft pick, you've hit a new low. When you embarrass yourself on national television by forgetting a play (I am still shocked he actually admitted that. What kind of leader does that?), you've hit a new low. You don't recover from that. You CAN'T recover from that. Sanchez is damaged goods, and it seems as though everyone in the organization realizes that. I think a lot of guys on here would not be opposed to Sanchez being cut just so we don't have to worry about the possibility fo him starting again. It would also make a bad season a lot more palatable. I'd rather suck with an unknown than suck with Sanchez.
JUNC and HOBBES can make all the excuses they want ... Blame it on the defense, the weapons, the coaching, the high tide, MTV ... whatever. The fact is, the single greatest factor tied to winning or losing games in the NFL is turnovers. You can't win football games when your quarterback is turning it over FIFTY FUCKING TIMES all by himself! It's next to impossible to win that way ... and it's nobody's fault but his own. We're 14-18 the past two years, and you don't need to be Columbo to figure out why. Do you two guys really not get that??
