I think we are better than average overall, but this is a very fair assessment. We've always been unbelievably bad at defending the two-minute drill and our rankings always make us look better than we really are. And part of the problem, in my opinion, is that the head coach himself obsesses over defensive rankings (again, exhibiting the fact that he is still a DC at heart). How many times has he gone out of his way to explicitly talk about his team's defensive rankings during one of his press-conferences? It always sounds, silly, misguided, and shortsighted.
Some fans don't really watch the games. Stafford wrist was bloodied, he was seen limping, he obviously was getting hit and feeling pressure most of the day.
He doesn't have to yet. He has his players crying for him. Richardson...Smith...Wilkerson...Colon.. all crying
It's unbelievable that anyone that's a fan of the Jets would put any blame on the defense. After our opening drive ( which we looked somewhat a competent offense ). We had 5 possessions totalling 7:30 of game clock. The Drive before Geno's pick,. Detroit had a single drive last 7:32. After getting the ball back following that drive,. Geno gives the ball immediately back to them less then 2 mins later. Our defense only allowed 0 yards on that subsequent drive and forced a FGA ( which was missed ). Only for Geno to fumble the ball right back to them 59 seconds later. We had 12 possessions yesterday - 8 of those 12 drives we went 3 and out. 9 of those 12 drives lasted less then 2 mins. 4 of those 12 drives lasted less then 1 min. The one Drive that the Defense can be blamed for ( Really just Kyle Wilson ) is the Lions first drive of the 2nd half. Wilson gave up 2 3rd down plays of 11, and 27 yards to Golden Tate. Tate ran through a Walls tackle that was slightly embarrassing which ultimately led to the score but KW as always put us in a bad spot. How you can say that this defense doesn't come up big for us is beyond me. This defense is the only reason we're staying in these games until the end, Despite our offense.
What are you basing that on, just the 4 sacks? Outside of the 4 sacks, Stafford was comfortable out there. The dude threw for almost 300 yards, ran for a TD, a few first downs. You need to take your green colored glasses off and go rewatch the game again. QBs that are disrupted dont put up those numbers and put up 31 points.
Bottom line, the defense gave up 31 points yesterday against a team WITHOUT their star WR playing. Defending them and acting like they arent a problem will only make you sound silly. This team has more holes then a block of swiss cheese but you cant convince anyone that this is a good defense.
Really not sure what point you're trying to get across here is, Or what game you were watching. CJ did play yesterday ( although he was certainly limited and not himself, he played 75% of the snaps ). and we only gave up 24 points, Not 31. The defense gave up 7 points in the 2nd half ( which I stated was a problem and the one let down the defense had during the game ). Stating incorrect "facts" about a game to back up your opinion makes you sound silly. You're either upset about the game and being emotional,.. or don't know what you're talking about. Either way I'm just going to let this one go. We're a top 10 defense easily. With a coherent offense we'd be even better since they wouldn't be forced to stay on the field most of the game.
That's a bit harsh (and also not true). The Jets have a dominant defensive line; really, halfway decent play in the secondary and we will be a top 3 defense. As it is, we'll finish the year in the top 10. _Nothing_ kills a team like offensive turnovers; especially passing-game turnovers. Houston went 2-14 last year despite having the no. 7 defense overall and no. 3 passing defense, and the freaking DPOY on their team (That's what throwing a continuous stream of pick-6es will do for you). These turnovers of Geno's cannot be simply dismissed as growing pains - they will kill the hopes this team quickly and efficiently.
Typo on the score on my part but if the Lions didnt go into ultra conservative mode instead of trying to run out the clock, the score would of looked much worse. Nothing about this defense aside from the DL is top 10. Top 10 defenses dont have a secondary as bad as this one. You arent fooling anyone.
We have a good defense. And they've done a solid job overall against the pass given the limitations of our secondary.
I'm not trying to fool anyone. Based on the game I'm seeing out there on a weekly basis, We are a top 10 defense. Discounting the score because "if they weren't running out the close the score would of looked much worse" is ridiculous. If there were able to score at will as you say, They would have put up a lot more then 0 points in the last 27 mins of the game. Is our secondary the weak point? It absolutely is, But that doesn't put us out of the top 10 just because of that. We stop the run about as good as any team in the league. That means teams are going to come at us throwing, which they are. We're still able to keep our team in the game until the final 2 drives against 2 of the best QBs/supporting caste in the league. Also 31 > 24 is not a typo,.. it's a brain fart - Which is acceptable, But now who's trying to fool who?
I am starting to reach a point where I think we've gone as far as we can w/ Rex as HC. Yeah his defense is great.But this team has had a generally GOOD defense dating back several head coaches. It's the offense that is just utterly inept. Specfically the passing game.Someone needs to come in to Florham park & put a strong emphasis on improving the downfield passing attack..that simply will not happen under Rex.
Our defense is a paper tiger. These stats and rankings are meaningless and I put absolutely no stock in them what so ever. Our defense sucks. 90 yard drives. 93 yard drives. They all carve through us like a knife cutting through butter. Rex Ryan is a fraud. We give up points and a lot of them, and we get no turn overs. 10th in the league my ass. Watch how fast that number plummets over the next few weeks
Defense has been put in tough spots when factoring in: - High powered opposing offenses - Injuries - Offensive ineptitude to support the D Can't put any blame on this D for what has happened so far this season, as far as our record goes. Could they have been better ? Absolutely, they've been horrible at times. But the offense is the real problem, and it's just not something that can be fixed this year. Moving forward on defense, we need to find ways to create turnovers, because solely being a very stout unit against the run and below average against the pass will not WIN us any games this year against a real opponent. Milliner missing games and leaving this secondary in shambles is a coward move as well after talking a huge game this preseason. Secondary was counting on him, plain and simple. Injuries to Allen and Pryor make things very grim looking ahead. We should see a decline in the play of the secondary against very good passing teams coming up, even if those guys do play. This defense is solid, but it will not lead us to victory. It can keep games against good teams winnable, but our offense will come up short 10 times out of 10.
Then you are blind. Put the crack pipe down. The only thing about this defense that is top 10 is the line. I wonder if you will being singing the same tune after the next 3 weeks. If Rivers throws for 300+ just like the last 2 QBs almost did, will you be singing the same tune? Imagine if Marshall was 100% or Calvin was 100%, do you honestly think this D would of stopped them like they did in the Revis did when we had solid CB play? As much as you want to fool yourself and look at certain numbers, this is not a team 10 defense. Top defenses force turnovers. Who on this defense is able to force turnovers? No one.... How is that ridiculous? Its a valid point. Watch the playcalling before and after they got the 14 point lead. Its apparent they were trying to run out the clock and go conservative because they know how bad the offense is.
Something for Rex, who loves stats, to hang his hat on. But they still go soft at key points. 90+ yard drive last week before the half. And another drive for a TD after the Jets got to within 7. They also let Detroit run for first downs after their last punt.
