Jets could replace Folk

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Vorrecht, Nov 30, 2010.

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How would you handle this situation?

  1. Sign Jeff Reed

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  2. Sign Kris Brown

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  3. Stick with Folk

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  1. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Sign Jeremy Ito!
     
  2. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

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    ...so he missed two makeable kicks in the biggest game of the season.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    a 65 yard is technically makeable, he missed one kick he should have made. If he doesn't make that kick at SD the week before we probably aren't even playing in Indy but that gets forgotten.
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    You're on a roll with making up arguments that suit you today. Carry on strawman.
     
  5. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

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    Nick Folk hit a game winner in OT against Detroit a few weeks ago.

    He went 3/4 against Houston and missed a "makeable" 53 yarder. We won the game by 3.

    He struggled against Cleveland and Cincinnati and that's why this thread exists.

    It's all in the past.

    This is a week-to-week league. It doesn't matter what you do the week before.
     
  6. Jetfan76

    Jetfan76 Well-Known Member

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    Lets just trade for Kaeding an end all this.He is secretly a Jets fan anyways with the way he blows all those kicks against us in the Playoffs.
     
  7. MBGreen

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    /thread


    *rumplefillskin"
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I have stated my case about Taylor. he has played well overall but he was brought here to rush the passer and he has been a complete non factor in that dept.

    He kicked a 30 yd FG in a dome to win that game.


    It's not all in the past, he nearly cost us the Cle game where he missed a 24 yd FG and he almost missed a PAT the other night and missed a 44 yarder right before halftime.

    he was great to start the year, but he has been inconsistent for over a month.

    In 6 of our 11 games he has missed at least one kick(Feely missed one in 5 games all of last year)

    -He missed a 30 yarder against Buf
    -He missed a 37 yarder against GB that was HUGE(I know it was windy but Crosby hit from 40 and 41)
    -he missed 3 at Cle including a 24 yarder(one was after that great, long drive to open the 3rd qtr and another miss came after the incredible play by Cotch)
    -I can give him a pass for missing from 53 although he was well short which isn't good.
    -last week he missed another FG and hit the crossbar on a PAT.

    Can we be realistic? I hope he turns it around but if we had a better option he'd be gone already.

    Not to mention his pathetic KOs.
     
  9. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    I wonder if he knew that it was for the game whether he would have made it, my guess is no.
    This guy has waves of low self belief and needs to get his shit together very very soon.
    I can't believe there are no other good kickers available
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    yes, the guy leading our team in sacks has been "a complete non factor" in rushing the passer. It's statements like these that make you sound ridiculous.
     
  11. Mr Electric

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    Okay, you completely misunderstood what I was saying.

    Everything Nick Folk has done this season good and bad doesn't matter anymore. It's all done.

    This is a what-can-you-do-for-me-now league. That's why Rex Ryan and our front office worked out some new kickers.

    Folk was very good early in the season, but two bad games led to our coaching staff losing some faith in the guy.

    ...and the kickoffs are "short" on purpose. It's called a placement kick.
     
  12. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I thought in reading the original post that Ryan was quoted as being concerned with the KOs as well
     
  13. AbdulSalam

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    +1 ^

    Taylor has done pretty well in his role this year. To say he has been a complete non-factor is pretty ridiculous.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    To anyone that understands this game they would know you sound ridiculous. he has FOUR sacks, 1 in garbage time, one where a QB was just trying to get out of the EZ and keep the clock moving and another matched up w/ a FB. Never mind the low sack totals, he's not pressuring the QB. Are we watching the same games?:rofl:

    I agree w/ you, I hope he gets it going. I hope he makes big kicks for us but do you have confidence in him?


    I thought the KOs were kicked short on purpuse as well but Rex said otherwise and I think he'd know better than us.

    You guys crack me up, he was brought here to help the pass rush. He's NEVER near the QB, he is doing other things well but he's not rushing the passer well. I cannot believe there are people debating this.
     
  15. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    The problem with your argument is that you don't seem to understand there's middle ground between being great and being a complete non-factor. By definition you cannot say he's been a complete non-factor. It's stupid.

    If you want to say he hasn't been great - FINE - no one would disagree with that. But no, you think because he's not consistently in the backfield terrorizing the QB he's a complete non-factor.

    It's not our ability to understand football that's the problem here. It's your inability to see any middle ground in rating his performance to date. You keep using words like NEVER, ALWAYS, COMPLETE - try something in between.
     
  16. 624

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    Jason Taylor was brought here to rush the QB, but when Pace got injured he was asked to do a lot more and did great in his role.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    As a PASS RUSHER he has been a complete non factor, he is not pressuring the QB. That is an unfortunate fact.

    To say he hasn't been great implies he has been good and that is just not the case. I love what he has done on non passing downs but when your claim to fame all year was that you batted down 2 Carson palmer passes then you know you haven't been making an impact rushing the passer. It's not just the low sack total, have you seen him hurrying QBs? I haven't, I have yet to see him pressure a QB amnd make that QB make a bad decision.

    Pace has been back for a while now, where is the pass rush from Taylor?
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    You don't even have to say he's been good. Say he hasn't been good or lived up to expectations, fine. Saying he's a non-factor is simply incorrect and a part of your schtick to try and get attention. Unfortunately I'm giving you the attention you crave.

    Once again, you're wrong.
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    It's not incorrect, he has been a non factor rushing the passer.

    I don't need attention, I have fans like you that will give me attention whether I wat it or not. I give my educated, unbiased opinions and back them w/ facts. He has been a non factor, opposing teams aren't worried about jason taylor. he was brought here to make our pass rush better and he has not done that. That's a fact, sorry you cannot accept it. pretend he was doing this for the dolphins so you can give me your honest opinion rather than the homer opinion.
     
  20. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you understand the meaning of non-factor.
     

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