Jets completed Mike McCarthy interview on 1/5-Saturday

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Would you be happy with McCarthy signing?

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  2. No

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  1. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    I complete disagree with this. McCarthy can teach this team what it takes to win consistently. Something that hasn't been taught for at least 4 years. McCarthy brings credibility in the form of a coach with a winning resume, a SB ring and a history of working successfully with some of the legendary Qb's of the game. This is the wrong time to gamble with an unknown with this team in freefall. Let the Jets get re-established as a functional football franchise and THEN gamble in 4 years or so with the next McVay.

    Sam needs McCarthy more than ever at this point in his development. He's had Bates calling idiotic plays that more often than not, had him improvising to make things happen. Adams has had Kacy Rodgers calling schemes that he had to overcome with his own natural talent. Lets face facts, both sides of the ball needs an enema. Even more than that, they need credible leadership on the sidelines instead of idiots.

    Let McCarthy stop the bleeding. Let McCarthy assemble an competent CS and guide Macc on draft day. Let the Established SB winning coach bring this team back to respectability instead of the undisciplined mess its become. This is the wrong time to gamble as the future of the organizaiton and its relationship with the fanbase is depending on this team crawling out of the shitter at some point in the VERY NEAR future.
     
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  2. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Here’s where I completely disagree. One of the biggest criticisms of McCarthy has been his played offense and bad playcalling. You’ve had players from Aaron Rodgers to Greg Jennings, who was the consummate professional, publicly question his ability to call plays. Read any article coming out about our coaching search and you’ll find that the biggest negative for McCarthy is his bland play calling and play design.

    And as far as a coaching staff, what lead you to believe he will actually hire one? He was basically his own offensive coordinator for 10 years because he was calling plays while the revolving door at coordinator kept a revolving. He said before last year that he was going to change things up and what did he do? Absolutely nothing. His play calling was still bad, his playbook was so bland and he brought back Joe friggin Philbin to be the “coordinator“.

    There is so so so so so much more to be worried about with McCarthy then there is an unknown head coach. The whole “devil you know“ thing.
     
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    He's done something the jets haven't managed in half a century so he can't be that bad.. His teams have been competitive which is more than what could be said with Bowles. If his schemes are so bland, how did the Packers keep managing to win and make playoffs which is something else the Jets have failed to do in recent times. Execution perhaps? Good basic coaching maybe? Here's a novel concept... Fundamentals.

    There's a time to gamble and a time to play it safe. If McCarthy comes in and elevates the Jets back to mediocrity, I'm sure the Fanbase wouldn't mind. Once you've established that baseline of winning football, THEN you can roll the dice with the next McVay. If this leadership team gambles and loses with an unknown, they'll simply reinforce the perception that they don't have a fckn clue how to spot management/executive talent. Honestly, I can see why they don't as they've been lousy at spotting coaching talent during the entire Johnson Era. They don't have a successful template to work from.
     
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    I totally disagree with people saying this is the "safe" choice, I view this as the "best" choice of all
    possibilities out there, many are "risky" because of lack of proven success at the NFL level. Which is what
    the Jets have gone with the last several HCs. We NEED a coach with experience, offensive mind, ability to
    develop an up incoming QB, bring discipline to this locker room, .....MM checks all the boxes.......
     
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    6 division titles and a Super Bowl champion and he’s “boring” to you
     
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    I'd be more than happy if McCarthy could those kind of boring results to the Jets. Quite frankly, I'm tired of all the excitement this franchise is currently providing me.
     
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    Aaron Rodgers isn’t boring and he’s the guy who dragged McCarthy to those division titles and championship.
     
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    True the “swagger” has been a little overwhelming here
     
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    I do not feel good that he left without a contract.

    Something seems off to me.
     
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    I told a friend that IF there is no announcement made today or by Monday morning at the latest then he won't be the coach.
     
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    Of course. Actually, come to think of it, we don't need McCarthy. "New Jack City" is providing the franchise with plenty of swagger all on their own.
     
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    Agreed, I guess its just that I don't particularly feel like the safe route is the option that the Jets should take and its clear that several on here disagree with that premise. Thats what makes having discussion great
     
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    That would be so very Jetsy wouldn't it... I can't shake the feeling that the Jets FO and ownership doesn't want a HC in the building with McCarthy's cache simply because McCarthy would literally be the "football adult" in the room. Chris Johnson is not about to share power and this nagging feeling is saying he's too insecure to hire someone with that much success in the NFL. Much better if he can find the next McVay, and then claim credit for his discovery. And if this next newbie coach bombs in several years, rinse and repeat as his cash will continue to roll in no matter how much the team sucks on the field. The suckers will always believe that next year is THE year.. False Hope has sustained this franchise for decades..
     
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    There's no question that we won't get McCarthy. This is the Jets. We're not allowed to have nice things.

    Fully expecting us to do something stupid like buy out Kingsbury's USC contract and hire him as the next head coach. Passing on McCarthy for Kingsbury would be the Jettiest thing the Jets have ever done.
     
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    Aaron Rodgers, 52 other players and the entire McCarthy assembled coaching staff won those titles...
     
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    There’s plenty out there that highlights how Rodgers saved McCarthy’s terrible offense and dragged it to a championship. At this point all we can do is agree to disagree. If he’s the coach I’ll hope for the best but expect the worst.
     
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    Why would you come to this conclusion? This flies in the face of facts. Please provide some actual evidence that McCarthy's methods did not work - NOT hearsay, and conjecture. The bottom line is exactly what Parcells said: "You are what your record says you are". McCarthy's record is outstanding. Is he perfect? Of course not, no one is! Parcells certainly wasn't, but he did turn this franchise around. And that's exactly what's needed now. Will he deliver a SB? Maybe, maybe not, but he WILL restore a winning attitude and provide a good foundation to build upon to get there.

    On the flip side, who do you believe is guaranteed to do better, and why? Again, please use facts and data and not opinion and conjecture to support your claim. And please note: I'm not saying that some hotshot can't be discovered, and become the next McVey, but the odds of CJ and Macc discovering this superstar are really long. They've tried FIVE times in a row and failed! The consequences of them failing again are way worse than the "mediocrity" you fear.
     
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    Or maybe, McCarthy is smart enough to know to get out of the way of a QB like Rodgers and let him do his thing, sort of like how Weeb did with Namath, and the coaches for most of the other HF QBs did.
     
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    Oh my god enough with the “swagger.” What about “swagger” scares you so much?
     
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    Well, "New Jack City" had swagger.. until they got punched in the mouth..
     
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