If the Jets were to cut him would he get anywhere near $14.2 million for 2019 from another team? We both know the answer to that. What have those guys done on other teams? Sometimes these guys are what they are. I don't play the blame game. These are grown @ss men it's not Bowles fault that Williams has been a bust. In his second season Jamal Adams established himself as possibly the best player at his position in the entire league playing for Bowles. Henry Anderson had seven sacks.
If MacCagnan has any balls he'll play hardball with this guy. Try to trade him see where other teams place his trade value at failing that cut him. To just hand him a $14.2 million salary for 2019 off the season he just had, off his disappointing first four seasons is the height of stupidity. Weak. I think Williams would be lucky to get half of that on the open market.
Young and talented are a dime a dozen in the NFL. It's about production. WE NEED PRODUCTION!!! I wouldn't pay this guy anywhere near $14.2 million in 2019 I suspect other NFL teams feel the same way that's why the Jets are reportedly already waving the white flag on trying to trade him. Who's trading away a high pick AND paying this guy $14.2 million? The Jets are paying him double what another NFL team would be willing to pay him for 2019.
To reiterate, he is a good player and this new 4-3 attacking scheme I am certain is a change in schematics with Leo in mind.
So, to be clear, you just want him cut because of the 14.2 million? We just paid a backup QB 10 million, why is this such a hang up for you? If he turns out to be a stud in Greg William's 4-3 scheme and turns into the player we've hoped him to be... Is that not worth the price of admission? To at least see? It is to me. If it don't work out, then you move on. Again, it's silly to cut him now.
Well yes but that wasn't really the joke, you will have to go back and look for a subtle play on words
That's precisely why it's dumb to trade him. They aren't going to get anything worthy in return. Better to just stick with him and see how he looks in the new defense with an actual edge rusher. If the Jets cut him, teams would be lining up out the door to speak with him.
I think it is wrong to say they aren't going to get "anything worthy" in return. At the very least it is highly speculative and of course the term "worthy" is a matter of opinion anyway. There would be interest, that's not speculative. Its also true that Sheldon Richardson was traded for a 2nd round draft pick AND Jermaine Kearse. Sheldon Richardson, who had been suspended twice by the NFL already, netted a "worthy" return, why do we think Leonard Williams couldn't?
IMO, nothing outside of a top 10 first round pick is worth moving their best defensive linesman. Yes, I think the Jets fleeced Seattle, and I do consider Williams more valuable than Richardson was. But you have to take into account that when they traded him, they could afford it because they already had Wilkerson and Williams, and wouldn't be able to pay them all without severely hindering the team. Obviously Macc would be a fool to not listen to offers, but unless he gets blown away I don't see him creating an extra hole on an already weak line without a plan in place to replace him.
To pay him $14.2 million when he'd be lucky to get half of that on the open market is stupid. At that salary he has to be one of the highest paid d-linemen in the sport. He'd better get 15-20 sacks in 2019 to justify that salary.
Have to wonder what his production would have looked like if the jets had been in contention after week 7 last season. Or the season before that. Or the season before that. Years of losing can have its effects, millions on the table or not.
How many will be lining up to pay him $14.2 million for 2019? You don't pay a guy that much just because. After this news and the Enunwa contract I'm beginning to get bad vibes about this offseason. It's clear to me MacCagnan has no idea about signing players to good value (for the team) contracts. A bunch of fat cats. Ain't won a d@mn thing yet getting paid a fortune.
So far this GM has rewarded two players (Enunwa & Williams) coming off miserable 2018 seasons with monstrous raises and plenty of job security. Bad vibes man. When are we gonna get a GM with the guts to make the tough decisions? With a eye for talent? Who knows how to construct a good football TEAM?
The problem with always trying to match salary with production on players is the constant changes that go into a player being productive. You don’t believe that Anderson is now going to use his seven sacks as leverage to get more money from a team? Leo still had more tackles and was only 2 sacks behind Anderson last year. He has been a more productive and consistent player than Anderson. The $14.2 million salary will put him in the top 12 DL salaries with Aaron Donald being the highest paid at $22 million. Looking at the stats for the top 11 DL that accompany Leo if he were to get that money, they have accomplished the same level of productivity. If your looking for 10 sacks a year from Leo, for his career, your looking at a potential HOF player.
