"Vegas" doesn't matter. It's the betting market that is setting these lines. The lines most often don't even originate in Las Vegas, and the lines move based on bets coming in from all over the world. And the betting market has proven to be pretty efficient. These over/unders are more accurate in the long term than any system people have for projecting won/loss records. There are "public teams", but any bias towards that is offset by "sharps", the people who make large bets. 50/50 means money, and while public teams will attract a higher percentage of total bets placed, the money will usually be fairly even, because the bets against the public teams will be larger, on average, then the ones placed on the public teams. Anyway, here are the longest shots to win the Super Bowl: Cleveland Browns +15000 Arizona Cardinals +15500 New York Jets +15500 Buffalo Bills +16500 Tennessee Titans +20000 Jacksonville Jaguars +30000 Oakland Raiders +30000
I doubt it. It is kind of a worst case scenario IMO. Not good enough to make the playoffs, not bad enough for a top pick. So, on second thought, yeah it probably will be right.
Do you think if they finish in the bottom 3-5, they will pick a QB anyway after spending a 2nd on Smith this year? Not likely.
Not sure that's true...especially if we can afford to pick up a decent FA TE or maybe another OLB/S. I think the 7 wins line is where it is because the assumption is the Jets will not be able to field a promising starting QB this year, so if Geno starts and shows enough to look like a probable franchise QB there is a good chance we'll exceed expectations significantly. The defense should be improved and underrated and obviously the offensive components are far better than last year including OC. The market is dictating Geno will not be likely to be a viable first year starter which is probably true but it might be enough of a chance to deserve some hope.
You can have a winning "mentality" and still be sub .500. It isn't about mentality or moral victories, it's about measurable success. A winning record is a success, adding a top ten talent helps with future success, finishing with 7 wins and missing the playoffs and a top ten pick is not current success and the draft position hinders future success (In theory as you could get a best player for a position of need anyway).
Not saying that I expect the Dolphins to win the division, but I feel pretty confident in saying they won't come in last especially with the potential of 2 rookie QBs starting. I say the MINIMUM Jet wins this year is 6. I see the Fins winning 9 games and battling for the 2nd wildcard.
The Jets might be the most unpopular team in the NFL right now, or at least in the bottom three and nobody is expecting a good season. If anything, rampant anti-Jets sentiment would seem to drive that number down and not up. The football world is in love with teams like New England, Pitt, GB, the Giants, but not the Jets under any circumstances.
Exactly. I personally think Vegas tags the Jets as an 8-8 squad, because our stock's so low right now, that O/U of 7 is going to see heavy action on the under. Also, if the 2013 have an offense that ranks in the top 15, we win a minimum of 10 games and probably the division. I'm not saying that'll happen of course, it was a reply to someone's post. Although no Marty Mornhinweg offense has ever finished below 17th I believe.
we got 6 wins last year without Revis or Holmes and there is no way the offense could play any worse than last year pretty much regardless of who is back there - I really cant see us getting less than 7 wins.
what coach (not named Harbaugh) could have had more success with this team over the last 4 years than Ryan has achieved? show me a successful coach that has not (coincidentally enough) had the benefit of a good QB that has done better than Rex?
We are perpetually underrated in the media. I see this team as an 8-8 squad: very good defense, good running game, subpar passing offense.
But New York is still a big money market. Vegas probably consistently has heavy action coming in on the Jets every year, and not from nickel and dime gamblers.