You know the Jets draft history, not very stellar with high 1st round picks, I don't want to see another blunder. Look at that one draft when he had all those first round picks, that turned the franchise around, granted now Pennington is a play away from his career being over, but the point was the draft is how you build a contender, look at the Redskins, thrwoing all that money around for nothing. We will have a big name sitting there at #4, would be nice to see them rape some other teams and stockpile some picks. This draft at some positions is very deep, we would walk away with quite a few starters. One things for sure, whatever happens this weekend is going to be exciting, now if the NFL would only lower that 15 min time limit.
lets forget the fact that its not worth doing this trade because of Cutler, lets just look at it as after the first 6 picks or so there is a lot of depth in the 1st day so why give up those two picks for the 13th, we could still pick up a QB if we want like kid from clemson, bama, or oregon later on just please dont trade up and loose a pick, when your rebuilding you need as many picks as possible to fill needs for the future.
I agree to an extent. There comes a point in the draft where the line is drawn and all studs go above the line, and all non-studs are below. Obviously, studs end up emerging below and busts above, but I'm talking about consensus draft boards. I have NO IDEA what # that line is at, but it's usually around 10-15.
Weeks ago I would have agreed with you and even started a post the jets arent taken a rb. Alot of mocks have alot of RB talent droping down to 29. If lendale white is on the board at 29 I think the jets should take him
I really can't say much about this, because I think that there's a very good chance that Ngata will be on the board at 13, and that Cutler will be gone at that same spot, negating both of the conditions.
The reason the Jets are in trouble now is because the previous regime kept bundling quality draft picks to trade up and take iffy potential stars. Santana Moss instead of 3 players. Dewayne Robertson instead of 3 players. Cutler instead of 2 players would be just an extension of the pattern and would likely leave the Jets in a deteriorated condition for another season. They have a bunch of picks in this draft and they need to turn them into a bunch of decent players to rebuild some depth. The NFL is a game of attrition and if you're banking on a few stars then they'd better stay healthy and they'd better be stars.
with nothing to do against cutler, though I'm not a big fan og him..i still think 2 players is better than one. we could grab a QB with the 35 pick, and with the 29th get a hybrid type of Defenseive player or the best offensive lineman availble. Also, I know for a while, Ngata was suppose to be the top DT, now t looks like Bunkley, but I think Ngata might drop, there may not be enough room for him (pun intended) within the first 13 picks.
doesnt look like we will be but thats one Patriot trait I hope we dont have now. not drafting RB's, i dont care, even when they took the first ring home they had little to no running game. go ahead dig up stats and prove me wrong, but i all im saying is i dont want to watch someone play as Antowain Smith, our completely average RB we try to convince ourselves is worth letting suit up.
thats idiotic, if we traded 29th and 35th pick for cutler, we might as well just give away 4, 29, 35 for bush. those 29th and 35th picks should be spent on 2 OL or 1 defensive player and 1 OL. if cutler is worth trading the 29th and 35th pick for, why not just take him at 4? first off cutler wont fall to 13, i would be really surprised if he did. second off the only player worth taking at 4 in order to give up 29 and 35 for cutler would be Mario. thats my opinion i dont feel like spending our first three picks on Cutler/Brick. if thats how things played out i would be furious. thats just me though.
According to Kiper on Mike and Mike this morning the "Stud" list is eight players. Bush, williams, leinart, young, b-brick, Hawk, Davis and I think the last on his list was Huff. Also, I read on sportsline.com that they have only 22 players with a first round grade. If true, it would mean moving up is not a bad Idea. I will see if I can find the link.
All I have to say is we better spend #4 on D'Brick or Cutler will be spending his entire career on his back.
Jets need players and there is no one player that is worth trading picks for. I like what we have right now. Let's stop being greedy and start thinking Needy. We Need a TE. Our TE's have done nothing since being in the league. I am not so quick to give them more chances. Doug Jolley has been in the NFL for 5 yrs, so has Chris Baker and yet Heath Miller in his rookie season has almost done more with just one year in the league. If we would have taken Miller like we suppose to then TE would not be a problem, but it is and will continue to be until we decide to upgrade that position.... We Need a WR, but there are none worth really mentioning unless we are thinking 3rd round and down. We Need Offensive Linemen and we could use a LB or two... We need TE, OL, LB, WR, and RB Anything else is gibberish
Brady Quinn might not even be a top 5 pick next year. Last year everyone thought Leinart was a sure-fire first overall and he could be the 2nd qb taken. Likewise, an injury, a bad season, a poor workout and he drops like a rock. Besides, if we wait who's to say that Ramsey doesn't take off or Chad's robotic shoulder pulls through. If we don't take a qb it should be because we're happy with our QB's, not because we might have a chance at someone next year. Besides, it's not impossible that we might not even have a draft pick till 18-20th spot next year.
You never know, but judging from Tangini's Parcells/Bellichek roots I don't see them trading up. Especially given the depth of talent this year in rounds 2-3. I think it'll be hard to find takers for trading down as well, so I'm expecting them to stay put and draft D'Brick (or whoever they like best) at 4. At 29 and 36 who knows who will be there but they will go BPA I would think, as there are so many holes to fill. I definitely subscribe to the smokescreen theory... I think all the teams are cranking up the fog machines as best as they can, and I'm just psyched that the Jets finally have an FO that can play this shell game!
I thought about this some more. John Abraham + 35 for #13? No thank you. Abraham + 35 should have netted us a top 7 selection at least.
If the Jets want Cutler, than why not trade down w/ Raiders or Lions and take him with that pick, we'll still have 29 & 35 plus whatever we can pick up with the trade down.....unless we they want Brick or Mario...I find it hard to believe the Ledger got this info!!!
Thank you for saying that! I've been harping on just that fact for months here. You don't know whats going to happen next season. You can't plan on getting one guy in NEXT year's draft!