how is this disrespectful? thinking the team is going to be bad doesn't show a lack of courtesy or esteem. some team is going to have to be #31, that doesn't mean SI is being disrespectful for believing one of 32 teams is the second to worst team going into the season. what is the alternative to being "disrespectful" to a team, only ranking the top 20 and then grouping the last 12 into "the bottom" teams so nobody feels "disrespected?" ridiculous. fact is, on paper and considering how bad teh Jets were last year, it is a fair assesment that the Jets may be one of the worst teams in the league, at least going in and until they prove otherwise. ultimately, the bottom 5 or 6 teams are arbitrary, so being 28 isn't any better than 31. who cares. you are far too sensitive if you think being ranked near the bottom of a pre-season power ranking is disresepctful.
Pre-season power rankings are completely irrelevant. The Jets are a team with a lot of question marks, a first year head coach, a first year offensive coordinator, a new scheme on defense, and an unstable running game. Putting them at 31 is certainly not unreasonable. -X-
The main purpose of the rankings is to get people to go to thier website and have those people tell other people to go to the website. They will try and get them right but to them it doesn't matter. Look at last years preseason ranking. They had TB Bucs, The Bears, Giants and Redskins in the 25th to 29th spot and said the best record of any of them would be 6-10. Well the worst record of any of them was 10-6 so that shows you how much you can rely on the rankings.
Power rankings really mean nothing like last season the Rangers were ranked last in the NHL and i talked so much trash because my friend is a Rangers fan and they did really well...that is...until they faced the devils in the playoffs Thats why they play the games.
last year's ESPN week 1 power rankings: 1. pats 2. colts 3. eagles(lol) 4. vikings(literal lol) 5. pitt 6. atlanta 7. chargers 8. ravens 9. jets 10. panthers ... ... 25. giants 29. bears
I couldn't agree more. Lets create a more complete list. -inexperienced offensive coordinator, and not one highly sought after around the league -same could be said for the HC; I refuse the koolaid until he proves himself to be every bit the genius everyone seems to believe he is. -a rubber-stamp defensive coordinator, whom is himself surrounded by an inexperienced staff of former players. If Herm were still the HC and he elevated Sutton to D coordinator, he would be called a moron for it. -Running back by committee is another way for the coach to say he doesn't even have a legit starting RB with a full training camp under his belt. I still don't like the way we traded for Barlow, the rest of the league knew we had no choice. Then we get the guy here, and he's working out so well for us, he's not even starting. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even see the field in week one. This is the move people are going to point to as a sign we should have seen it coming when the honeymoon is officially over. As for Blaylock, so many people were ready to send him to the scrap heap not long ago, now he's Mr. Wonderful. I'm not buying it. We will have a new starting RB next year. -This whole thing of fitting square pegs in round holes on defense will be a mess for a while. DRob as DE, Thomas at LB, Vilma in the 4-3...not to mention the lack of a pass rusher, as noted in our preseason performances. Still no replacement for Abe, just Ellis (who has yet to prove he can be a legit, every-down threat to the QB without Abe on the other side) and a cast of castoffs. Maybe some of those blitz packages Mangini brought over from Belichick will be able to compensate, but its still a weakness. And don't get me started on our run defense and the ongoing search for a presence in the middle. Kimo as our huge runstuffer in the middle, eating up two blockers? Okay, whatever you say. Maybe one of the recently acquired DTs can do the job, or DRob...meanwhile, get ready for teams to pound us down the middle for a while. -You would think our young geniuses in the FO would have figured out we could have used another speedy reciever to challenge defenses deep. Oh, wait, I forgot, we don't throw the deep ball anyway. Why is that? Hmmm... -An extension for Ramsey? Good god...! -Finally, let me just say that I do believe that this team will be a very good football team. I just don't know if the patience will be there for that to happen. So many people look at the Jets this year and think that we...may not be perfect this season, but by next year we will be a playoff team. It took Bill Parcells a few years to turn the Giants into a good team; Belichick had many years and ended up being fired for Ted Marchibroda. Parcells said something a few years ago that stuck with me: he said that if he were a first time HC in this league today, he would never have made it, because there is no patience for developing good HCs anymore. The fans and the money involved won't allow that to happen. Parcells record as a first year HC with the Giants was 3-12-1. If we have a comparable record this year, how many people will be calling for Mangini's head? And will the owner be inclined to chop it off and give it to us? So to sum it all up, I believe that a combination of front office and coaching inexperience; as well as a lack of talent and experience on the field (especially on offense) is going to make this a long year. Ranking us 31st is legit, and anyone outside of the sunnier fanbase of the Jets knows that. But if we have the patience (that most of us won't) we may be a top-10 team in a couple of years.
Jets will not be better than Raiders.No matter how many Raiders scrubs they put on their roster. Take that to the bank.
Big question mark on experience coupled with a horrible pedigree. The single biggest concern I have about the team. Great camp, great Defensive scheme, you have to love what he has brought to the team so far. Herm is a leadership guy who doesn't do X's and O's. Mangini has a plan for the D and the coaches are just executing it. Barlow may be looking great, you and I don't have a clue yet. He may well turn out to be the starter. NE won a SB with RB by committee. If the committee has talent and the coach's can game plan them to exploit situations while still maintaining disciplined execution (Easier said than done) we might be better off than a solid number 1 with 350 carries? It looked to me like our D played very well. Fact is Abe was gone, moving Thomas to LB gives him a chance to get his head up and use his speed to rush the passer. I think our D is going to outright shut some teams down this year. Our D was always run on with Herm as HC, the problem was we couldn't defend the pass either. Dwight and Brad Smith. They brought in two speed guys, the real question is do we have a QB who can get the ball to them in space down field? It wouldn't shock me at all if Ramsey ends up starting at some point. At the end of the day unless Chad turns this team into an instant winner he is gone in a year or two. Ramsey is a perfect No. 2 QB who is priced right and can be here for years. Parcells turned the Giants around in the second year, the Jets around in the first year, NE around in the second year and Dallas around in the first year. BB turned Cleveland around in year 3. Mangini should have this team in the right direction this year and in the hunt by year 3. With a little luck and Chad stepping up we should be a playoff contender this year. Parcells took over a bad 4 & 12 team and had them to 9 & 7 in year two. If he didn't do that he might have been fired right there? We canned Cosslet Carol and Kotite in a 5 year span about 15 years ago. Times may have changed but it all depends on the owner. This team is better in personal, coaching and scheme than it was when our rank was between 5 and 8 at this time last year. Top 10 in this league is a goal for failure. If you want to be a SB contender you need to build an elite team that's top 2. We could be a top 10 team this year, top 10 is for perennial losers. The question is do we have a GM and HC in place who can build an elite top 2 team that is going to make a serious run for a SB not a run for a playoff berth?
I didn't say the schemes won't work, I just question the ability of the players to fit into the system this year. The point was about how good the team will be this year, and the majority of the defense is either castoffs, rookies or leftovers from Herm's days. I think you can only disguise your weaknesses to bad opposing coaches, and only then for so long. I still give the front office here low marks for the RB scramble this close to the start of the season. If RB by committee were indeed what the team was going for, we could have stuck with what we had already and not actively sought a trade. The fact of the trade itself showed dissatisfaction with the idea of RB by committee by the coaches. The trade for Barlow was a search for a #1 guy because Curtis can't be the guy anymore, a fact that I believe the FO dragged its feet on until it was months too late to get the best they could have gotten. IMO, this was a sign of OTJ training that, as I said, people will look back upon as a sign of things to come that we should have payed more attention to when it happened. And it also backs me up on the fact that we will have a new starting RB next season. I say its a fact because I believe it: I have spoken, that is all. How many DTs has the team picked up in the past few weeks? There have been a few, I know. And last I heard, Kimo was still slated to be the NT anyway. So where is the run D? I hope things work out and its not a problem, but I still believe the defense will still take a pounding defending the run. I have seen enough of that last year, and hate to see it again this year. As for defending the pass, its always hard to do that playing 8-9 men in the box. When teams run on you, it makes for closer games than when they are forced to throw. Our offense isn't going to get anyone into a shootout with us again this season, so expect close games with low scores and not many chances taken against us. This can make it appear that the defense is keeping games close, when in reality the opposing team is playing it safe against a team with no threat posed on offense. I thought of Dwight, but I didn't include him. Looking back on it, that was an ommission I shouldn't have made, but my central point was about the lack of a deep passing game and how this will hurt our chances of success this season. I happen to be one of those people that actually believes Chad can get the ball deep downfield, just not without throwing the high-arcing passes instead of the frozen rope I would rather see. But will the OC even call those types of plays with Chad? We've had years of Herm saying it every offseason, we're going to throw the deep ball, and it never materialized. And here it is, a new coach and coordinator, yet the same offense. I get so pissed off over the monotonous dunk-and-dink BS, I feel like tearing my hair out! Hopefully, we've just been playing things close to the vest in preseason. It still isn't very encouraging for our chances on offense this season, what I have seen so far. I wanted Bollinger, and I'm not the only one scratching his head over why we let Brooks go and kept Ramsey. Time will tell who is right, as there are good odds that both QBs will see time this season. Lets just stick with both coaches first 2 seasons. Not so good. BP had a 9-7 record in his second season with the Giants, but to compare Mangini to BP at this stage is comparing the youngest rookie coach to a HOF HC with 23 years of HC experience. We can only hope he turns out to be near that good, but you can't tell this early (of course, that doesn't stop the koolaid drinkers from believing, without a doubt, that he is the second coming. I'm not sold; copying what you see and doing it yourself are two different things. Everyone learns from dealing with their own mistakes moreso than watching others. Having a great mentor doesn't automatically make you just as good.) Some of the younger folks should have lived through the Walton-Coslett-Kotite era, that would separate the real fans from the cheerleaders. So many Herm haters just didn't know how good they had it these past few seasons. We may be at the same level in personnel and scheme as last season (and the scheme, I'm not sold on that being an improvement) but to say we have better coaching is a point I just can't agree with you on. You do remember whom our coordinators were last year, don't you? Dinger and Henderson. Replaced with Schotty's kid and Bob Sutton. I don't call that an improvement, more like a huge step backward. We don't know that either one of them really has a clue on how to be a successful coordinator, any more than we do about Mangini, its just taken on faith because so many people are under the spell of believing that everything Mangini does is the right thing to do and that he can do no wrong. I feel like I am the only one seeing it this way, and I hate for the Mangini bashing to start in a couple months. Its going to be brutal, and so sad, because everyone thinks he walks on water now, and those same people are going to feel betrayed when he turns out to be human, and just a guy making mistakes and learning instead of being perfect. As for being a top-10 team as a bad thing, I would be happy to just be in the top 20 by next year at this time. Lets worry about being a SB contender on down the line somewhere.
